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brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
9,604
14,671
Human beings in general are a huge liability for all kinds of reasons. They have to eat and sleep...they need water, clothing, shelter. And top of all of that, they want rest & recreation...and all kinds of other frivolous stuff.

They have to be supervised...they get sick and injured...they need health insurance...they take time off to deal with their children. They get old and tired. It just goes on and on.

The robots will just have to take over.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
19,630
44,855
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
I was hoping to qualify for U-Hauls company sponsored smoking cessation program.
Oh well....
wait, perhaps we may still meet the minimum requirements and qualify as “greeters” for a local Tinderbox.
I figured that my next "illustrious" career move would be as a greeter for Walmart. I spent weeks practicing my "Welome to Walmart!" greeting. Then I heard that they stopped having senior greeters. There aren't any Tinderboxes left here as the original from 1928 closed a couple of years ago. Now this. Looks like I'm stuck being an art director at Warner Brothers. Whatever happened to upward mobility?
 
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gervais

Lifer
Sep 4, 2019
2,078
6,973
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The "work history" of cigarette smokers is long, well documented and, unfortunately for cigarette smokers, there is nothing positive in that "history." Granted an entire segment of the workforce has been stigmatized because smokers take more sick days, stinck up vehicles, cubbies and offices, are risk takers (not of the heroic kind) but of the self-harming type. One could go on.

gervais: A bit of research would inform you that alcoholism (being drunk) is remarked as an illness and protected behavior with certain hoops to be jumped through by an employer before terminating an alcohol abusing employee. A prospective employee with an "alcohol problem" wouldn't be hired based on any number of other reasons the applicant would reveal or would be found in a competent background check.

Smoking is a choice, not a "right. I'm a cigarette smoker. I pitied the poor officer who had to operate the "g-ride" I'd just spent 10 hours in. I certainly, given a choice, wouldn't want a "cubby" next to a smoker. So, if you desire employment at certain businesses you can exercise your right and quit smoking. You are seeking employment to enhance, generally speaking, and they aren't offering employment because they are altruistic.
I wasn't aware of these laws regarding alcohol. I'm surprised that they are not classified the same, given that they are both addictions. I don't see how they differ that much, personally. I use to work with an alcoholic that would come in everyday reeking of booze coming out of his pores, hung over and cranky as a grizzly bear. AND he chain smoked cigarettes all day in our work van, so I got the double whammy. But anyways, maybe they are lawfully different, but an addiction is an addiction. However, I could be wrong.
 

iajaffe

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 10, 2010
176
47
I have never been to a Uhaul and not seen employees smoking. I wonder what the enforcement procedure is.
 
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Elric

Lifer
Sep 19, 2019
2,185
9,826
Liplapper Lane (Michigan)
tobaccocellar.com
I always ask myself why TPTB so desperately want us to not have tobacco.

Oh! They have our best interest at heart!!! Thank you Big Brother! I’ll be 50 at the end of January and it occurs to me that I need a Nanny ?

Yeah right.

ETA: ??‍♂️ I’m that guy lol! Okay, okay... But seriously, think about it.

I wish I could "Like" this a lot more than once.
 
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davek

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 20, 2014
685
952
I'll be more interested to know if employers will allow employees to smoke marijuana in those states where it is legal while denying them tobacco smoking.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 

brian64

Lifer
Jan 31, 2011
9,604
14,671
I always ask myself why TPTB so desperately want us to not have tobacco.

Oh! They have our best interest at heart!!! Thank you Big Brother! I’ll be 50 at the end of January and it occurs to me that I need a Nanny ?

Yeah right.

ETA: ??‍♂️ I’m that guy lol! Okay, okay... But seriously, think about it.

Control freaks don't need a reason other than control.

Control is its own reward for them...they need it...real bad. It's a pernicious addiction.

Who will save the children from it?
 
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