Does Sweetened Black Cavendish Make Anyone Else Feel Crappy?
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probably the tobacco is still too wet (too high a moisture) - a sweet smelling wet sugary tobacco will certainly bitemore. thats why you don't call your love "sugar" or it will bite
"honey" probably less bitey
"honey" probably less bitey
Try some untopped black cav straight, like Lane BCA. It's a very mild smoke as it's just black cav, or try the Danish as another member mentioned. I personally love aromatics but tend to buy the Danish ones and don't seem to have any issue. You could also try the breath smoking method, it made a world of difference for me once I figured it out. Enhanced Pipe-Smoking Flavor and Comfort with Breath Smoking - https://www.smokingpipes.com/smokingpipesblog/single.cfm/post/enhanced-pipe-smoking-flavor-and-comfort-with-breath-smoking
It's all been said by the other guys here and what might be worth a try is a brown Cavendish or just avoid it completely. Cavendish are usually used because they carry the topping or casings so very well but other flavour exist in different genres and it's worth exploring others for sure. ttps://www.tobaccoreviews.com has a search function that allows you to select tobaccos by varietal which is helpful and if you're looking for something with a very soft flavour maybe explore stoved Virginias like Rattray's Dark Fragrant, bit harder to keep lit but a very very subtle smoke. As to your original question, no, but I dislike the American style Aro's that have a lot more than just a topping or casing added and its possible that this is what isn't agreeing with you.
I feel crappy just hearing the words "sweetened black cavendish."
Glad I am not the only one. I avoid it completely now. I don’t really like the experience of any sweetened tobacco that I have come across. Didn’t take much to decide I’m better off sticking with burley forward blends.
You'd probably be fine with Rattrays Marlin Flake or Germain Gold Flake, which are sugared up a bit.
Leaf processed into Cavendish alone are not Aromatics, Cavendish does get used in Aromatics, but Cavendish is also used in Non Aromatics.
So you’d have to be more specific, as to which Aromatics with Cavendish in them, that are bothering you?
I was specifically asking about sweetend cavendish. Thats all.
Aromatics are also sweetened and I was hesitant to try them because of my experience with sweetend cavendish. Thats why the mention of aromatics.
I wouldn’t completely write off Cavendish. If it’s sweetened with a casing in any particular way, whatever is used can vary, and as you may be aware, different leaf like Burley or VA can be made into Cavendish, and the process can also vary.
It’s a bit hard to generalize as ‘Sweetened Cavendish’, as one size fits all, it doesn’t. This is why I was asking to be more specific to the blends you tried that you didn’t like.
Just remember too, a sweetened cavendish you didn’t like in one blend, prepared the same way, but added to different leaf varieties can bring about a different experience.
In the beginning, it’s best to take it one blend at a time.
Cavendish, does help for better mouth feel, and cooler smoother smoking, so you might just want to steer clear of overly sweet and just be on the look out for plain cavendish or subtly sweet.
This is a good article on Cavendish if you haven’t seen it.
What is Cavendish Pipe Tobacco? | Smokingpipes.com
Learn more about one of the most versatile blending components in pipe tobacco: Cavendish.
www.smokingpipes.com
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Not writing off cavendish at all more just sweet tobacco. I don’t like sweet tobacco and as I said in the post I was referring to straight sweetend cavendish. Not a blend. My question was really simple and I was being as specific as I needed to be.I wouldn’t completely write off Cavendish. If it’s sweetened with a casing in any particular way, whatever is used can vary, and as you may be aware, different leaf like Burley or VA can be made into Cavendish, and the process can also vary.
It’s a bit hard to generalize as ‘Sweetened Cavendish’, as one size fits all, it doesn’t. This is why I was asking to be more specific to the blends you tried that you didn’t like.
Just remember too, a sweetened cavendish you didn’t like in one blend, prepared the same way, but added to different leaf varieties can bring about a different experience.
In the beginning, it’s best to take it one blend at a time.
Cavendish, does help for better mouth feel, and cooler smoother smoking, so you might just want to steer clear of overly sweet and just be on the look out for plain cavendish or subtly sweet.
This is a good article on Cavendish if you haven’t seen it.
What is Cavendish Pipe Tobacco? | Smokingpipes.com
Learn more about one of the most versatile blending components in pipe tobacco: Cavendish.
No the issue isn’t complicated, but you were also not being as specific as need be, all I can think is, you are making assumptions that all Sweetened Cavendish falls under the same category of mouth taste/sensations, nicotine, sweetness, etc., they do not.
It is the Preparation of the Cavendish, not the word being called sweet. Sweetened Cavendish doesn’t always fall under the same idea of sweet like taste sensations.
Do you know/remember the name of this Black Cavendish you were given?
In pipe tobacco, there are Casings and Toppings, for flavor and mouthfeel.
This is a good article to read, even though it’s labeled as for Aromatics.
Aromatic Pipe Tobacco | Smokingpipes.com
Learn more about how aromatic pipe tobaccos are made, including the differences between casings and top notes.
www.smokingpipes.com
I’ve never seen anyone here have a bad experience with black cavendish, and saying feeling crappy, that could be what was in the cavendish, how it was prepared, possibly low quality, or artificial ingredients, enough to make anyone feel crappy.
Unless you have sensitivitys/allergies to certain leaf varities, or nicotine.
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You are over complicating this. The question was simple. This thread is old enough I have experimented on my own. I dont like flavored tobacco. It makes me feel like crap. You are giving me all kinds of unnecessary info that im not asking for. I also already know all of what you are saying.No the issue isn’t complicated, but you were also not being as specific as need be, all I can think is, you are making assumptions that all Sweetened Cavendish falls under the same category of mouth taste/sensations, nicotine, sweetness, etc., they do not.
It is the Preparation of the Cavendish, not the word being called sweet. Sweetened Cavendish doesn’t always fall under the same idea of sweet like taste sensations.
Do you know/remember the name of this Black Cavendish you were given?
In pipe tobacco, there are Casings and Toppings, for flavor and mouthfeel.
This is a good article to read, even though it’s labeled as for Aromatics.
Aromatic Pipe Tobacco | Smokingpipes.com
Learn more about how aromatic pipe tobaccos are made, including the differences between casings and top notes.
I’ve never seen anyone here have a bad experience with black cavendish, and saying feeling crappy, that could be what was in the cavendish, how it was prepared, possibly low quality, or artificial ingredients, enough to make anyone feel crappy.
Unless you have sensitivitys/allergies to certain leaf varities, or nicotine.
Heavily cased black cav doesn’t make you feel crappy. That was my question. You answered it. I am not looking for any more. Thank you.
I am not trying to have a debate. No further input is needed.
Yup, I hate black cavendish. It burns way too hot and leaves me with tongue bite as well as just tasking plane old nasty. Tastes like newspaper that has been soaking in sugar water then slow baked for months. Autumn Evening is the only blend with cav that I can handle.