Perique makes my mouth water. Virginias tend to give me severe cotton mouth, but that effect is variable. VaPers are good because the Perique counteracts the Virginias. English and Balkans are good to go.
Do Virginias Burn Hotter?
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Perique makes my mouth water. Virginias tend to give me severe cotton mouth, but that effect is variable. VaPers are good because the Perique counteracts the Virginias. English and Balkans are good to go.
I do find that Virginias tend to burn a bit hot, probably due to the higher sugar content.
This would be odd that every blend created with Perique in various ways, that they would all cause this.
Have you seen this article on Perique?
A Closer Look at Perique | Smokingpipes.com
Perique is an incredibly versatile blending component and one of the most interesting and complex types of tobacco.
www.smokingpipes.com
As an example, while you could have several blends using Perique all from St. James Parish, the way in which they are processed with the blenders does change their profile/character to various degrees.
But maybe at the heart of it, simply smoking a fermented blend like this, no matter how it’s been processed bothers you.
Have you ever smoked Germain's Royal Jersey: Perique Mixture?
For anyone facing issues with various styles/blends they like, the Germain’s line of tobaccos are extremely subtle easy on the mouth.
I’d be curious to know if you also experience the same, with this blend.
Perique making me salivate doesn't bother me. I consider it a benefit. As I already mentioned, balancing something that makes my mouth get uncomfortably dry (some virginias) with something that makes my mouth salivate (perique) is a good thing.
Have you ever smoked Germain's Royal Jersey: Perique Mixture?
For anyone facing issues with various styles/blends they like, the Germain’s line of tobaccos are extremely subtle easy on the mouth.
I’d be curious to know if you also experience the same, with this blend.
Never heard of it. It looks like one of those tobaccos that's always out of stock. Sounds yummy though... but as I already said, I don't have a problem with perique. I'd probably very much like this blend.
Virginias do burn hotter. IMHO, those hot-burning, mouth-irritating Virginia tobaccos need to be blended with other tobaccos to mitigate this effect. Perique is a natural for this. Dark-Fired Kentucky is another that goes very well towards balancing a hot Virginia. Just my two cents...
It's definitely red virginias that make me salivate - other VaPers, like St James Flake (basically FVF with Perique) don't, whereas F&T Blackjack (straight red) does.This would be odd that every blend created with Perique in various ways, that they would all cause this.
Have you seen this article on Perique?
A Closer Look at Perique | Smokingpipes.com
Perique is an incredibly versatile blending component and one of the most interesting and complex types of tobacco.
As an example, while you could have several blends using Perique all from St. James Parish, the way in which they are processed with the blenders does change their profile/character to various degrees.
But maybe at the heart of it, simply smoking a fermented blend like this, no matter how it’s been processed bothers you.
Have you ever smoked Germain's Royal Jersey: Perique Mixture?
For anyone facing issues with various styles/blends they like, the Germain’s line of tobaccos are extremely subtle easy on the mouth.
I’d be curious to know if you also experience the same, with this blend.
Germain's blends always taste as if they've been aged 10 years - maybe their components have, for all I know. Perique Mixture is quite "soft", tempered with bright Cavendish.
In my freight train days I could get anything to smoke extremely hot. After learning everything the hard way I finally learned that I had to sloooooooooooow dooooooooooown. I did and it has only been smooth smoking since.
First off, you will get more flavors from it when it's been dried down. Personally, I like my Virginias just shy of bone dry, still pliant, if crispy at the ends. When I can squeeze a small amount betwixt thumb and forefinger without feeling moisture surfacing against my skin, it's good to go,
When I got into Virginias and their variants, I altered my technique to work with them. I was already a slow smoker. I went slower and that worked. HOTW schooled me. That's a blend that can go from warm to core of the sun in the blink of an eye.
Sugar burns hotter than most cellulose. The water or liquid content doesn't make the fire hotter. However, moistures in the tobaccos adds steam to the smoke, which burns your tongue.
The acidity of Virginias adds a bite to them also.
Drier if definitely better for Virginias, but it doesn't make the bowl cooler to the touch. But, it allows you taste more and it makes the smoke easier on your mouth.
To get the bowl to burn cooler, you just have to slow way down.
The acidity of Virginias adds a bite to them also.
Drier if definitely better for Virginias, but it doesn't make the bowl cooler to the touch. But, it allows you taste more and it makes the smoke easier on your mouth.
To get the bowl to burn cooler, you just have to slow way down.
Among other good advice from fellow veterans, I also liked hoosierpipeguy's quick analysis. It seems that the pleasures are ridden slowly, contemplative, meditative, it's like watching a landscape, while walking, on a cool autumn day.
@Pipke and @BingBong this is mentioned as an occurrence also among cigarette smokers.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The Effect of Tobacco Smoking on Salivation - PMC
The purpose of this study was to examine the detrimental effect of smoking on the function of the salivary glands. The study was conducted on 60 patients who were divided into two groups: a test group which included smokers and control group ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
@Pipke and @BingBong this is mentioned as an occurrence also among cigarette smokers.
The Effect of Tobacco Smoking on Salivation - PMC
The purpose of this study was to examine the detrimental effect of smoking on the function of the salivary glands. The study was conducted on 60 patients who were divided into two groups: a test group which included smokers and control group ...
LOL... correction - short term non-deleterious increase in salivary gland output..
I'm glad that someone is concerned that I apparently enjoy the taste of perique and DFK. To researchers, most of the public, medical professionals, etc. anything to do with tobacco is deleterious. I like latakia too. Deleterious... indeed.
Well, always seeing your Stormy Sea here, seems something of a contradiction, that you must be smoking the wrong blend/pipe… LOL
@The Libertine and @Pipke
Greg Pease mentions this on PH Balance, which is actually suppose to be more alkaline from Burley.
Tongue “bite” is a response to smoke with a higher pH (more alkaline) than the mouth and tongue are used to. Some tobaccos, notably burleys, contain a high percentage of nitrogenous compounds, and produce a more alkaline smoke. The dreaded “burley curse” often results. Tobacco producers will work to mitigate this by adding sugars to the casing sauces. Sugars, when burned, actually acidify the smoke, resulting in less“bite.” Virginia tobaccos are often blended with burleys to perform the same function.
Mac Baren mention on PH between Burley and Virginia.
mac-baren.com
The most important property of Burley tobacco is its ability to reduce the often sharp taste of Virginia tobaccos. The pH value of Burley is around 7 which means that it is more or less neutral, whereas Virginia tobacco has a pH value of about 5 which means that it is acidic. So the Burley can soften the impression of a sharp Virginia tobacco and make the smoke more rounder and appealing.
VAs are suppose to be more acidic and irritating. I’ve always thought Alkaline was the problem, but VAs seem to bother more.
I guess at this point, I’d say try an Alkaline drink with VAs to see how it works, then something acidic to drink.
Either way, I know there is a PH balance irritation here at play…
Greg Pease mentions this on PH Balance, which is actually suppose to be more alkaline from Burley.
Tongue “bite” is a response to smoke with a higher pH (more alkaline) than the mouth and tongue are used to. Some tobaccos, notably burleys, contain a high percentage of nitrogenous compounds, and produce a more alkaline smoke. The dreaded “burley curse” often results. Tobacco producers will work to mitigate this by adding sugars to the casing sauces. Sugars, when burned, actually acidify the smoke, resulting in less“bite.” Virginia tobaccos are often blended with burleys to perform the same function.
Mac Baren mention on PH between Burley and Virginia.
burley tobacco | Mac Baren Tobacco Company
mac-baren.com
The most important property of Burley tobacco is its ability to reduce the often sharp taste of Virginia tobaccos. The pH value of Burley is around 7 which means that it is more or less neutral, whereas Virginia tobacco has a pH value of about 5 which means that it is acidic. So the Burley can soften the impression of a sharp Virginia tobacco and make the smoke more rounder and appealing.
VAs are suppose to be more acidic and irritating. I’ve always thought Alkaline was the problem, but VAs seem to bother more.
I guess at this point, I’d say try an Alkaline drink with VAs to see how it works, then something acidic to drink.
Either way, I know there is a PH balance irritation here at play…
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I should of mentioned, that in reality the higher Alkaline does seem to be the issue. The Chemical Theory is;
While VAs, can be lower Alkaline, if combustion temperature goes too high, then the hydrocarbons (especially sugars) join with oxygen to form water and turn neutral, thus leaving the alkaline components to predominate in the smoke.
The link I posted before is good to go over reading…
While VAs, can be lower Alkaline, if combustion temperature goes too high, then the hydrocarbons (especially sugars) join with oxygen to form water and turn neutral, thus leaving the alkaline components to predominate in the smoke.
The link I posted before is good to go over reading…
Do Virgins burn hotter? Not the old ones, the fire was never lit in the first place.