Disappointed with EMP

[Old_Woodsman]

Hello everyone,

Have you ever looked forward to a tobacco, only to be woefully disappointed with it? I am experiencing just that with Early Morning Pipe. Given how much I love Presbyterian Mix, I thought this would be a slower start to the day. Now it may well just be my palate - but it smokes and smells like I have filled my bowel with the contents of 5 crushed Red Marlboro....

...am I smoking it too dry or too moist? I have tried both but get zero flavour. I am not looking for it to be as aromatic as Pres Mix or 965 etc....but its currently a massive let-down.


Thoughts....?

 

[kcghost]

Some tobaccos just simply disagree with us. For me. EMP was the most pleasant of smokes. Of course, the first time I smoked it was still manufactured in England. As my tastes began to change away from latakia mixes the tobacco became much less enjoyable to me.

 

[LotusEater]

Hello everyone,

Have you ever looked forward to a tobacco, only to be woefully disappointed with it? I am experiencing just that with Early Morning Pipe. Given how much I love Presbyterian Mix, I thought this would be a slower start to the day. Now it may well just be my palate - but it smokes and smells like I have filled my bowel with the contents of 5 crushed Red Marlboro....

...am I smoking it too dry or too moist? I have tried both but get zero flavour. I am not looking for it to be as aromatic as Pres Mix or 965 etc....but its currently a massive let-down.


Thoughts....?

Presbyterian and EMP are my favorite tobaccos to smoke in the morning with an espresso. I’m not sure why you’re not getting any flavor from EMP although I have heard others say the same thing about both EMP and Presbyterian. To me EMP is mellow sweet and smokey. I love it.

 

[SBC]

Wessex Campaign, Yorktown, and Presbyterian all come to mind as tobaccos that I let myself anticipate too greatly. None were what I expected.

On the other hand, I've sometimes been surprised the other direction -- liking something far more than I expected.

 

[AJL67]

I don't really look forward to too many tobaccos so I'm not let down, i've looked forward to restaurants and been horribly let down that's enough I don't need that with pipes as well.

Rule #1 - YMMV

 

[mso489]

I still have unopened Dunhill labeled tins of Nightcap and Royal Yacht, but I've never been curious to try EMP.

 

[Streeper541]

Presbyterian and EMP are miles apart from each other. It doesn't surprise me that you'd favor one over the other.

 

[brooklynpiper]

I was underwhelmed when I first tried EMP by some acrid flavor. When I slowed down and more importantly got out of the wind inside, I enjoyed it more.

 

[ashdigger]

I had a few tins of fresh Haddos Delight so I decided to dump some cash on a ten year aged tin.

Well, the tin was , like rotted meat.

The tin had a light shake sound to it, kinda like the BB rolling around in my head looking for a brain.

When I opened it, the smell, well, the smell kinda had a road kill In Louisiana during July vibe.

When I smoked it, it tasted like a hobo that had been marinated in Hawaiian Tropic Suntan oil roasted over a dumpster of burning raccoons.

So yes, I was disappointed

 

[cosmicfolklore]

I had a few tins of fresh Haddos Delight so I decided to dump some cash on a ten year aged tin.

Well, the tin was , like rotted meat.

The tin had a light shake sound to it, kinda like the BB rolling around in my head looking for a brain.

When I opened it, the smell, well, the smell kinda had a road kill In Louisiana during July vibe.

When I smoked it, it tasted like a hobo that had been marinated in Hawaiian Tropic Suntan oil roasted over a dumpster of burning raccoons.

So yes, I was disappointed

Damn son! They way you talk about Haddos always has me running to pop another tin of it. Sorta turnin me on.

 

[JimPM]

EMP is just okay I think I gave it @ 2.9 Pipe rating. Some folks see it as a Turkish/Oriental forward delight. The forward registration, at least in IMO, is the Cyprian leaf, which is tasty keep in mind. Other than that, I find that EMP has some significant mechanical concerns (bite, harshness and self-extinguishing tendencies) Generally my thoughts on its charisma were:

"Regarding the presence of excitable moving ambience and colorized nuancing that are typical of a well-constructed English blend, Early Morning Pipe demonstrates a restraint that serves to minimize its achieved complexity."

But to each his own

 

[RonB]

It’s all a matter of personal taste, which do often evolve over time. I loved EMP years ago and now I just like it.

 

[anotherbob]

Hello everyone,

Have you ever looked forward to a tobacco, only to be woefully disappointed with it? I am experiencing just that with Early Morning Pipe. Given how much I love Presbyterian Mix, I thought this would be a slower start to the day. Now it may well just be my palate - but it smokes and smells like I have filled my bowel with the contents of 5 crushed Red Marlboro....

...am I smoking it too dry or too moist? I have tried both but get zero flavour. I am not looking for it to be as aromatic as Pres Mix or 965 etc....but its currently a massive let-down.


Thoughts....?

I feel like most tobaccos need to breath first. They're a little dull if you smoke them right out of the tin. And while I do like EMP and even crave it sometimes. I find it on the boring side of things. And the main selling point of it is that the flavor isn't that bombastic. Though I think my biggest tobacco disapointment was Bob's Chocolate flake. I heard so many raves about it of the kind I've now learned to totally ignore. I found it to be one of the most meh smokes I have ever experienced. If my grandmother bought me pipe tobacco that would have been the one she bought. Not bad but I have never even considered getting more of it. But the thing is with that name I was hoping to enjoy it more then moderately.
EMP is good but I'd enjoy many others more. If you like Presbyterian I would say go out and get a tin of Consummate Gentleman by Ashtons. I think that's the single most under rated mild to mid English blend. In fact Presbyterian hit me as a more polished but more boring near match to C.G. (seems to help sell a blend if you call it by it's initials).

 

[daytonsean]

EMP was my morning routine for years. Exactly what JimPM said, very forward with the Orientals. Lighter on the VA too than Presby mixture. EMP might not be for you. Jar it and try it again in a month. Kramers makes a blend called Father Dempsey that to me is very much like Presby mixture just a little sweeter.

 

[Old_Woodsman]

Presbyterian and EMP are miles apart from each other. It doesn't surprise me that you'd favor one over the other.

What are the main differences?

 

[JJ_JJ_JJ_JJ]

Smoking EMP is just pushing hot air round..

 

[canucklehead]

What are the main differences?

The Virginias and the Orientals.

I really like both of these blends, and put them in the same category of light Englishes, but other than their Latakia component and proportions they aren't too similar. Presbyterian has sweeter, rounder flavours to my tastes, EMP is more dry and woodsy.

I prefer EMP over Nightcap.

 

[bullet08]

Nothing wrong with that. I love EMP. But I can't deal with some other highly rated blends like NightCap or Plum Pudding. Everyone's different and there are enough blends to meet everyone's palate.

 

[Hunter1]

When I started back smoking a pipe, EMP was the first tobacco I smoked. I think it's a straight English, I could be wrong. It wasn't bad on the first smoke. I found it gets better the more I smoke it. To me it smells a lot better than a cigerate. I smoked the first bowl of it in my Jeep, The next day you couldn't tell I smoked it in the truck. Pipe tobacco is a lot different than cigerate tobacco. Just my opinion.

 

[WhiteCrown]

Jar it and try it again in a month.

This. In fact I am starting to think I only like certain blends in certain weather. Maybe wait a season? I doubt its your technique. I have experienced the same taste you describe even with known good blends, it has always eventually came back around.