Did we just lose Presbyterian in Europe?

[Aylesbury Pike]

Over the last few days I've noticed Presbyterian has either disappeared or been labeled as "discontinued" on several European sites.

 

[dd57chevy]

Courtesy bump . We have quite a few European members who might know .

 

[ThermionicScott]

According to the Sutliff announcement at the beginning of the year, Presbyterian was going to stay in production. Perhaps your vendors are doing that annoying thing of using the word "discontinued" to mean "we're not stocking this anymore."

 

[sunnysmokes]

Was Presbyterian made in the US or Europe? I'm wondering if the day will come where you'll only be able to get blends/leaves from your island with all the tobacco oppression we're experiencing in different capacities from the private and public sectors

 

[AirOne]

Yes, it has been axed in Europe. But should be available in the US. It is produced in Europe, go figure

 

[ofafeather]

I was interested to see it in a 100g tin.

 

[Brendan]

100 grams dosage of tobacco, to be taken orally with or without meals, at multiple intervals daily

 

[Aylesbury Pike]

According to the Sutliff announcement at the beginning of the year, Presbyterian was going to stay in production. Perhaps your vendors are doing that annoying thing of using the word "discontinued" to mean "we're not stocking this anymore."

That's what I was confused about.

I'm saddened by this as I was about to try some for the first time. Lucky I didn't, in hind sight, I may have ended up loving it!

 

[AirOne]

According to the Sutliff announcement at the beginning of the year, Presbyterian was going to stay in production. Perhaps your vendors are doing that annoying thing of using the word "discontinued" to mean "we're not stocking this anymore."

It is discontinued in Europe. Not in the US. For other blends it is the opposite.

 

[Sigmund]

I’m not a church goer. I can live without it

 

[dd57chevy]

anotherbob​

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Couple of blends from Ashton...Winding Road, a semi-aromatic that is not dissimilar to SWRA, and Gold Rush, my favorite loose cut straight VA.

I still feel like consumate gentleman is basically a better version of Presbyterian

 

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I still feel like consumate gentleman is basically a better version of Presbyterian

I will say that they're under the same sub category of English as each other. The one has a richer slightly more complex flavor. I let you make a wild guess which one I find that to be.

 

[dd57chevy]

I will say that they're under the same sub category of English as each other. The one has a richer slightly more complex flavor. I let you make a wild guess which one I find that to be.

I've never tried Presbyterian , but I bought a tin of CG on a whim . It is now my favorite blend !
I don't think this is a thread hijack , I mean , the OP can't get Presbyterian . I'd advise trying CG .

 

[anotherbob]

It's a great recommendation for a person that can't get Presbyterian. And if you ask me it would be hard to tell them apart in a blind taste test. I think it be on that level of you'd be able to guess but really wouldn't feel confident about it. CG is certainly on my list of underrated blends. In fact most Ashton blends are. Even my least favorite (of the ones I've tried) Rainy Day is a really good goopy aromatic. The tobacco doesn't shine in that one at all, but it's quite complex for an aromatic, sorta reminds me of a Mai Tai cocktail. Gold Rush is a perfect example of a aromatic on the other end of the spectrum. It's certain has added aromas but they enhance rather then distract from the base tobacco (like adding a cube of sugar to your Earl Grey). Winding Road is a incredibly moreish cross over blend (aromatic/English).

 

[Aylesbury Pike]

I've never tried Presbyterian , but I bought a tin of CG on a whim . It is now my favorite blend !
I don't think this is a thread hijack , I mean , the OP can't get Presbyterian . I'd advise trying CG .

It's a great recommendation for a person that can't get Presbyterian. And if you ask me it would be hard to tell them apart in a blind taste test. I think it be on that level of you'd be able to guess but really wouldn't feel confident about it. CG is certainly on my list of underrated blends. In fact most Ashton blends are. Even my least favorite (of the ones I've tried) Rainy Day is a really good goopy aromatic. The tobacco doesn't shine in that one at all, but it's quite complex for an aromatic, sorta reminds me of a Mai Tai cocktail. Gold Rush is a perfect example of a aromatic on the other end of the spectrum. It's certain has added aromas but they enhance rather then distract from the base tobacco (like adding a cube of sugar to your Earl Grey). Winding Road is a incredibly moreish cross over blend (aromatic/English).

It's interesting that you both mention CG as I have tins of it on the way. I was drawn to it as a fan of both burley and mild Englishes like EMP. Does the burley flavour come through in CG?

 

[dd57chevy]

I wouldn't say the burley flavor is strong . My palate isn't tuned to know individual components , to be honest .
@anotherbob had the best descriptors , rich and complex . A very enjoyable smoke , for me anyway .

 

[ofafeather]

I wouldn't say the burley flavor is strong . My palate isn't tuned to know individual components , to be honest .
@anotherbob had the best descriptors , rich and complex . A very enjoyable smoke , for me anyway .

I’m with you! I find that a bit of burley in VA based blends really helps balance things out, keep the blend cooler and gives more body, especially as I tend to be a puffer.

 

[anotherbob]

It's interesting that you both mention CG as I have tins of it on the way. I was drawn to it as a fan of both burley and mild Englishes like EMP. Does the burley flavour come through in CG?

I find it more rounds out the blend a little bit, while also giving it a slight bump in over all body.