Did Peterson Resolve the Boring Issues?

[pipebuddy]

Just wondering; as this has been going on forever.
Will they get it right one day?

 

[alaskanpiper]

I'd say so, as I have always found their pipes quite interesting!

I have no idea. My newer ones pass pipe cleaners.

 

[pipebuddy]

Really? They must be straight pipes, no?
They can't possibly be bent!?

 

[sandollars]

???

 

[haparnold]

I've never had a bent Peterson which passes a pipe cleaner. I've also never had a bent Peterson which was a bad smoker, though I've sold or traded off a couple that didn't strike my fancy. If you have a fetish for pipes which pass a cleaner, you may want to look elsewhere. Or better yet, only buy straight pipes.

As far as having the draft hole come out where it's supposed to on the bowl, I've never had one of the 5-6 Petes I've owned miss the mark. YMMV.

 

[alaskanpiper]

Really? They must be straight pipes, no?
They can't possibly be bent!?

Yeah, my newer one's are straight pipes, draft holes are all spot on. I have a bent system pipe, which for obvious reasons, does not pass one fully, but smokes fine. The only other bent one I have is a little rosslare 03, which I have yet to smoke, so I haven't checked.

 

[pipebuddy]

I've never had a bent Peterson which passes a pipe cleaner. I've also never had a bent Peterson which was a bad smoker, though I've sold or traded off a couple that didn't strike my fancy. If you have a fetish for pipes which pass a cleaner, you may want to look elsewhere. Or better yet, only buy straight pipes.

As far as having the draft hole come out where it's supposed to on the bowl, I've never had one of the 5-6 Petes I've owned miss the mark. YMMV.

Wow! they must have been straight? or were they also bent?
I've owned over 40 Peterson and none of the bents ever did end up flush on the bottom.
3 mm + was the general standard.
And having a pipe cleaner pass through is no fetish but an elementary rule of adequate pipe making, mate.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

and none of the bents ever did end up flush on the bottom.

I'm curious... no, I am not defending Petes, but why do you think that having the draft enter the chamber dead on the bottom is a good thing?

 

[seldom]

If I understand correctly there may be new ownership now. Perhaps something will change in the near future? Unless there is some drastic change I'll not buy a new Peterson. But, some people really love them and that doesn't bother me.

 

[pipebuddy]

I'm curious... no, I am not defending Petes, but why do you think that having the draft enter the chamber dead on the bottom is a good thing?

There is a specific reason for that.
Think about it, Mike.
Or take a wild guess.

 

[anotherbob]

wow I must be lucky my peterson churchwarden passes a cleaner with ease. Just as easy as any other. Although ironically it came packed with pipe cleaners that are double the size of what I usually use and the ones it came with only can go through one pipe I own. Though it's a new one and it is very curved and the pipe cleaner goes straight through.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Think about it, Mike.

I had a whole thread where Skip and I compared all of the high end pipes in The Briary... and the best pipes were all drilled higher into the chamber. The reason for this was that bent pipes tend to condense more water, and without somewhere for the little droplet of water to drop, the pipe would gurgle. Straight pipes tend not to have this problem. But, bent pipes require it.

Now, on a system pipe... given that the system actually works, there probably wouldn't be a need for this, but on a bent pipe, I propose that for the draft to be drilled dead bottom of the chamber would make for a wet smoking pipe.

 

[pipebuddy]

I had a whole thread where Skip and I compared all of the high end pipes in The Briary... and the best pipes were all drilled higher into the chamber. The reason for this was that bent pipes tend to condense more water, and without somewhere for the little droplet of water to drop, the pipe would gurgle. Straight pipes tend not to have this problem. But, bent pipes require it.

Now, on a system pipe... given that the system actually works, there probably wouldn't be a need for this, but on a bent pipe, I propose that for the draft to be drilled dead bottom of the chamber would make for a wet smoking pipe.

What you are saying here is really interesting.
The thing is, however, since I ensure my tobacco is at a very low moisture level,
I never did experience issues with excess humidity/gurgling.
And this worked for both high and bang on boring.

 

[cosmicfolklore]

however, since I ensure my tobacco is at a very low moisture level,

Great!! I like to smoke mine bone dry. But, the water doesn't just come from wet tobacco. The byproduct of combustion is actually water. So, even bone dry like I prefer will create some water in the process.

I merely threw that out there to help stop the misconception that the perfect pipe is always drilled dead bottom... because it is not. Even Skip at The Briary would have said that dead bottom was the preferred drill, until I started pulling the Dunhills, Ser Jacopos, Bjarnes, Eltangs, SBangs, etc out of the cabinets and asking him why they were all drilled high in the bowl.

 

[lightmybriar]

And just as an addition for any readers who may not know yet, System Petersons do not pass a cleaner and that’s by design. The air path is rerouted and would make passing a cleaner in a System pipe very difficult if not impossible.

 

[logs]

They'll pass a pipe cleaner. You just have to take off the stem first. (And there's the rub, given how incredibly difficult it can be just to get a stem off a Peterson).

 

[mso489]

About half my full bent pipes of other brands will not pass a pipe cleaner. I'm quite proud of the ones that do. I haven't run the experiment, but I think I have one or two partially bent Petes that do as well. For bent pipes that don't, of any brand, I just occasionally take off the stem and clean the two parts individually, which hardly seems extraordinary. People get stuck on the pipe cleaner test. It's a virtue but no deal killer for me.

 

[logs]

In any event, it could be worse. Try getting a pipe cleaner through a Kaywoodie drinkless; your Peterson system will seem miraculous by comparison.

 

[haparnold]

And having a pipe cleaner pass through is no fetish but an elementary rule of adequate pipe making, mate.

Why? According to whom?

I know some people think it's a sine qua non of good pipes, but I've come to believe there's very little rhyme or reason to what makes a pipe smoke well. Passing a pipe cleaner is not a big deal to me one way or the other.

 

[irishearl]

Yep, hap, passing a pipe cleaner makes no difference in my smoking experience.