Death Metal

[judcole]

I'm not even gonna try to listen to death metal. I enjoy some early LZ. I bought the first Black Sabbath album a million years ago, and decided that it was music to listen to while you did Quaaludes.
Dead, Allmans, old Stones, classic swing, blues. Gimme stuff like that any time.

 

[deathmetal]

@metalheadycigarguy
Well, for Death, this is probably the peak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ClXPGmZy4
@mayfair70

We called Ratt, Poison, Twisted Sister and the like "Hair Bands" to differentiate them from "true" metal like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Sabbath.

Same boat here. I eventually just started referring to them as hard rock and saying I liked AC/DC instead, which people seem to intuitively accept.

I can see how the different styles co-existed on a continuum and branched out from common influences and evolved over time.

I find the "music history" angle to be the most interesting, as like all histories, it is a story of ideas. I have a shelf or so of music history books that provide some aid in seeing where everything groups.
@jimbo69

I challenge you to not rock out to some ABBA

I rather enjoy ABBA and think it better than all the pop music I've heard lately.
@theosprey247

But. we just called it heavy metal.

I tend to use the term "heavy metal" like the term "classical": it is both an umbrella term for an entire style, and a subgenre. Black Sabbath is proto-metal; Led Zeppelin and Deep People are hard rock; starting with the NWOBHM (Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead, Angel Witch, Witchfinder General) was heavy metal, and anything of roughly that style fits under that category. Speed metal sort of extended that, and underground metal was the full evolution of metal; after that, it has been mostly hybrids as it looks for a new direction.

 

[deathmetal]

I am a big fan of Lemmy from Motörhead and so is Matron. When we heard about his death we were both devastated. During an e-mail conversation we came up with the idea to bring a toast to Lemmy in Wuustwezel. Of course that would happen with the favourite drink of Lemmy, a Jack Daniels/cola. So I brought half a bottle of Jack with me (the other half I drank on the evening of the day I heard Lemmy died..) and to my delight I saw that Matron had taken 2 Motörhead shirts with him. His shirt was without sleeves. "You know, this shirt once had sleeves. But on a day when I was hiking I realized I forgot to bring tissues with me when I just had taken a shit. So I ripped off the sleeves of my shirt..." The shirt he had for me was a perfect fit, "size fat bastard" he said to me with a wink. We filled our glasses and raised them in honour of our fallen hero. R.I.P. Lemmy!
https://dutchpipesmoker.wordpress.com/2016/04/02/pleasures-of-life-in-belgium-2016/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf1bFQldkfo

 

[iamn8]

GrooveMetal, I'm not really sure what the attraction is either. I like some harder stuff like GWAR and KMFDM, but only seeing it live. It's nothing id ever listen to in my car. Obviously you need a bit of seething rage to appreciate the genre.

 

[deathmetal]

"A repo man is always intense. Come on, let's get a drink."

 

[fluffie666]

KMFDM. Someone mentioning them is a breath of fresh air. I though I might be the only one left who heard of them since most of my high school buddies are either dead from o.d.'s or holed up in their own reclusive worlds.

 

[deathmetal]

Sounds like Generation X. Thanks, Boomers!

 

[mayfair70]

"A repo man is always intense. Come on, let's get a drink."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcJXT5lc1Bg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ZkUiyAqtY

 

[username]

Then there's the vegan black metal chef https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CeZlih4DDNg

 

[deathmetal]

I still think Repo Man is one of the best films ever made. Watch it back-to-back with Naked Lunch for a real immersion in outsiderness.

 

[mayfair70]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqlqp3OT13U#t=7.697416

 

[mackeson]

I still think Repo Man is one of the best films ever made. Watch it back-to-back with Naked Lunch for a real immersion in outsiderness.

Wow, never considered watching them back-to-back, what a mind-^%$^#$

I do greatly enjoy them both though

 

[deathmetal]

My triad is Naked Lunch, Repo Man and Apocalypse Now.
It's a Red/Black pill for modern society! Also just great filmmaking.

 

[mackeson]

Apocalypse Now is really a masterpiece of filmmaking. I've watched that one numerouse times and wondered if they knew at the time exactly what they were doing. think I'll watch it again tonight after the kids are in bed

 

[deathmetal]

The documentary released by Coppola's firm about the making of the film is quite insightful. The answer: yes, they knew what they were doing, in a general sense, and no, they did not in a day-to-day sense. It sounded like everyone on drugs going mad in the jungle, which fit the theme enough to be a canny strategy.

 

[mso489]

High Hormonal Mayhem isn't unique to Heavy Metal or Death Metal Rock. Someone has to try it in most musical genres. Wagner tends toward that in opera; sometimes he just can't turn the volume down for even a few bars. Charles Ives may not sound anything like rock nor high test Wagner, but he definitely uses cacophony to make his point, burrowing from all over the American musical landscape. Hip-hop lyrics sounded to me like one unending rage-oholic for a long time, but when you read the lyrics at your own rhythms, some of the recorded unintelligible rap is some fine poetry, to my utter amazement. It's like listening to an angry drunk and then finding out he was explicating higher mathematics. Artists do have to be careful, in whatever art form, not to bury the craft too deeply in stuff. It's difficult enough to get attention when the material is accessible. Amp it up too much and the audience never gets there in time.

 

[checotah]

Rock lost me in the 70's as what I knew as hard rock came around. Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, and Van Halen drove me to country/western; pretty much been there ever since, but don't care for the current stuff they call country.. Love classical, big band, most opera, some jazz, blues, Celtic, new age, and, of course, early rock. Screaming, screeching guitars with unintelligble lyrics fit more into my definitions of noise than what I enjoy as music.
But I will willingly defend your right to listen to what you enjoy.
Yup, I'm old. Now, where is that Glenn Miller CD??? :lol:

 

[deathmetal]

Screaming, screeching guitars with unintelligble lyrics fit more into my definitions of noise than what I enjoy as music.

No, this is noise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D26nGQD3wPU
Delicious.

 

[phil67]

No, this is noise:

It all sounds about the same to me as all the other music(?)you've posted, but not as loud and sans any lyrics(?). Either or, I could not for the life of me relax with a pipe (or not) while listening to either, but could possibly do so while cutting the heads off of chickens and high on acid, which I haven't done since 1970. :lol:

 

[brian64]

Apocalypse Now is really a masterpiece of filmmaking. I've watched that one numerouse times and wondered if they knew at the time exactly what they were doing. think I'll watch it again tonight after the kids are in bed

I agree. Several years ago I purchased the extended director's cut (AN Redux) and imo it was not as good as the theatrical version. I've noticed this with other movies as well. Sometimes deleted scenes were deleted for good reason.

The documentary released by Coppola's firm about the making of the film is quite insightful.

I keep meaning to watch that but still haven't got around to it.