Put me in the 'It's okay ' but I don't see the hype camp. I thought it was decent but I won't pay what they are charging for it on this side of the pond. That said if I am ordering from Estervals I may throw in a plug or two at that price.
Dan Tobacco Salty Dogs No Taste?
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That describes a lot of blends for me. I'll have some hot, ashy smokes and wonder why I bother, but every so often, it'll be a flavor bomb that has me in bliss.
I really need to cut into one of my Salty Dogs plugs and try this stuff...
Salty Dogs is awesome, it's every bit as good as Mac Baren's classic Navy Flake. I hate to be that guy but if you are getting no flavor from Salty Dogs you gotta learn to smoke a pipe. Prep it different, smoke it slower, something, cuz it's sweet and delicious if you get it right. It's not a "nothing" tobacco, it's fantastic, but it's a little fussy.
'If you don't like the same food as me, learn to eat.' Silly talk.
I've rarely seen it mentioned since it was released around ten years ago.
I just look over them. There's always one in the crowd. I liked it enough to dedicate a pipe to it but I know one smoker's favorite is another's abomination to pipes.
Not at all.
If someone says "Man I can't stand oysters, they are so slimy and weird." that's one thing.
If someone says "Oysters have no detectable flavor." that's an entirely different claim.
The claims made by some in this thread are more reminiscent of the second one. It took me a very long time indeed to learn to maximize the flavors in smoking a pipe. It's possible I'm very stupid and/or a slow learner. It's also possible that other people are going through what I have already been through - a perfecting of technique which would allow them to enjoy a broader range of tobaccos.
Salty Dogs is not lacking in flavor, it's top of its class. If someone cannot access those flavors, I could advise them how they might do so. Or they can say "Nope it's no good, not for me." No skin of my nose, as it were.
As I said earlier, I like the stuff myself. But if someone says the flavours are muted, I wouldn't assume that I know something more about smoking a pipe than them. The flavours are muted, but I'm OK with that. If you read any of our more esteemed bacci reviewers, they always mention the strength of the bacci, both in terms of n, and in terms of the strength of the flavour. It isn't 'amatuer' for anyone to make such a calculation about any bacci.
For me, it seems that such matters are too subjective to make final determinations on one's ability to smoke a pipe, based on what they do and don't taste. Smoking is hardly rocket science, not sure there are many on this forum who don't know how to do it.
It's not rocket science but it is science - if you burn with any intensity the flavor molecules literally are destroyed (unlike if you eat your burger too fast). And who is most prone to puffing a little extra hard but someone trying to get "more" flavor out of a blend?
Judging from what I've seen on youtube and at a few pipe shows, there are many amongst us who it's fair to say do not know how to smoke a pipe, or rather, if you want to be politically correct about it, one might say that they are smoking a pipe in a very different way than I do - which is fine if they are having a good time, but they'll miss out on some stuff.
Judging from what I've seen on youtube and at a few pipe shows, there are many amongst us who it's fair to say do not know how to smoke a pipe, or rather, if you want to be politically correct about it, one might say that they are smoking a pipe in a very different way than I do - which is fine if they are having a good time, but they'll miss out on some stuff.
But this blend shows that it has a medium strength and a medium to full in flavor in tobaccoreviews...by some of our more esteemed reviewers.
Then again, I think that most Esoterica blends are too mild, and those blends are also supposed to be medium flavored in that site.
I don't assume that those who don't like Salty Dogs are novice smokers -- they just don't like this blend. But those who dismiss this blend because some people say it is too mild...well, they might be missing out on a great smoke.
The food analogy is a little loose but I see what you were getting at.
To be fair, this is a pipe tobacco forum, a large number of posts asking these type of questions ARE new members new to the hobby so it's natural to give advice on smoking technique.
It's not rocket science, but pipe smoking is an acquired and practiced skill. The higher threshold to entry is probably why it's become less popular than cigars, cigarettes, and vapes.
TBF being a pretty heavy forum troll the last 10/15 years, I've read A LOT about Salty Dog, the hype is definitely there. Not as much as say the McClelland and early C&D Small Batch runs but Salty Dog, especially in its plug form, has always been raved about - dipping it in whiskey/rum was a craze for a while too.
Yeah, this is it. Some will see this or that blend as having medium flavour, reviews will say it's mild, vice versa, and so on. So either taste is a subjective phenomena, or half of these people don't know how to smoke a pipe. I tend to opt for the former, could be wrong though.
I dunno mate. I never personally had much trouble smoking a pipe. And I've always worked on the assumption that apart from total newbies, everyone on this forum can also competently smoke one. Perhaps that's not the case, I honestly have no way of knowing that 100%. Perhaps a lot of people on this forum smoke it upside down, or put the bowl in their mouth, and light the stem. Perhaps some smoke oregano. I can't say for sure lol.