Cutting European Plugs into Proper Flakes

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Jul 26, 2021
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An acquaintance was making his own tampers with bullet casings and also makes straight razors. He decided to combine the two (see picture below).

I thought it would be great for plugs. It's just a little larger than I expected (and I was hoping the blade would fold into the handle).

I still think it's a neat homemade tool.
 

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I use a kitchen knife, chef style, made of softer steel that would not chip and long enough to provide leverage.
 

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I want the block and the machine :)
Cast iron rope cutters were made by the millions and could be found in every general store in the country for a century.

As a result, they are easy to find (and relatively inexpensive) in today's roadside antique shops.

The catch? They were NOT designed to slice flakes from plug. They must be modified to do that. And that has a catch: They are riveted together, not screwed; and their blades are too thin & flexy for slicing. Modifying one to perform as seen in those pics involves a lot more work than anyone who hasn't tried it would believe.
 

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Cast iron rope cutters were made by the millions and could be found in every general store in the country for a century.

As a result, they are easy to find (and relatively inexpensive) in today's roadside antique shops.

The catch? They were NOT designed to slice flakes from plug. They must be modified to do that. And that has a catch: They are riveted together, not screwed; and their blades are too thin & flexy for slicing. Modifying one to perform as seen in those pics involves a lot more work than anyone who hasn't tried it would believe.
Sounds like work! Yet it looks super cool
 

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Sounds like work! Yet it looks super cool
Definitely yes to both.

Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't take on such a project again.

But the resulting machine amazed even Mike McNiel---who pronounced it "cooler than shit" at a KC club meeting a while back---so I'm glad to have it. :col:
 

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Cast iron rope cutters were made by the millions and could be found in every general store in the country for a century.

As a result, they are easy to find (and relatively inexpensive) in today's roadside antique shops.

The catch? They were NOT designed to slice flakes from plug. They must be modified to do that. And that has a catch: They are riveted together, not screwed; and their blades are too thin & flexy for slicing. Modifying one to perform as seen in those pics involves a lot more work than anyone who hasn't tried it would believe.
Ernie Q. mentioned how hard it was to slice flakes for customers with such a tool. As I never operated one, your insight is very meaningful regarding it's limitations. Would you, please, show a picture of the tool you designed? It might be inspirational for us, the 'home slicers'.
 

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Ernie Q. mentioned how hard it was to slice flakes for customers with such a tool. As I never operated one, your insight is very meaningful regarding it's limitations. Would you, please, show a picture of the tool you designed? It might be inspirational for us, the 'home slicers'.
Sorry, just saw the attachments now. Are the screws on top meant for extra stability and strengthening of the blade ? Also, what type of steel would you consider suitable for the job?
 

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Ernie Q. mentioned how hard it was to slice flakes for customers with such a tool. As I never operated one, your insight is very meaningful regarding it's limitations. Would you, please, show a picture of the tool you designed? It might be inspirational for us, the 'home slicers'.
I'm not sure what you're asking.

I didn't design anything, just modified a commonly-found-in-antique-stores "rope cutter" to slice plugs well.

The changes & enhancements are hard to see (except for the 3X thicker stainless blade), plus are mostly internal.
 

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Sorry, just saw the attachments now. Are the screws on top meant for extra stability and strengthening of the blade ? Also, what type of steel would you consider suitable for the job?

The original blade for those choppers is surprisingly thin & flexible, because they were disposable by design. It kept stores from having to sharpen them.

The entire interior of the machine was designed around that exact thickness, though. Meaning altering it to accept/fit a thicker blade require grinding cast iron. Not recommended. lol

Ditto disassembling something that's been riveted and staked together. It can be done, but definitely requires, um... committment. lol

You're better off finding a machine that was designed for the task of slicing---as opposed to chopping---in the first place.

Like so:
 

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The changes & enhancements are hard to see (except for the 3X thicker stainless blade), plus are mostly internal.
George, I recall you mentioning the Knife taper......... was it a single edge worked best? (Sharpened on one side only), or was it a conventional edge worked best? (Both sides of the knife sharpened)........