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zack24

Lifer
May 11, 2013
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What if briar is not totally dried (or oil-cured briar without driving out majority of oil content), but if the drilling is totally on point - then there will be no gurgling right?
It shouldn't make much of a difference- I filled a pipe bowl with water for 24 hours and weighed it afterwards- it gained 1 gram from the water soaking in and within 24 hours was back to normal.
Then will opening the airway too much do any harm (except from affect the feel / resistance of draw as everyone can imagine) - and why aren't so many pipes have real opened airway? What is the optimal point of the airway in terms of performance aspects, e.g. gurgling, condensation, draw?
I use 5/32" - or 4mm. That seems to work pretty well. You can control the resistance of draw by packing tighter...Also, resistance is controlled by the smallest diameter in the shank/stem- you can have 5mm on the shank and 4mm on the stem, and that 4mm is going to control the resistance and airflow. That's why it's important to get a nice funnel shape on the end of the stem.
That kind of leads into the reverse calabash conversation- the open chamber tends to allow damp smoke to condense in the chamber as it passes through...(and acts as a nice moisture trap to prevent it from getting to the stem....)

 

cigrmaster

Lifer
May 26, 2012
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56,848
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Sarasota Florida
Zack, please make sure you make the shank of that Meer you are making for me has a 4.3579 mm opening. Anything other than that and I am not paying you.

 

zack24

Lifer
May 11, 2013
1,726
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please make sure you make the shank of that Meer you are making for me has a 4.3579 mm
no problem- I just ordered that from the machine shop just for you- shouldn’t be more than $200 or so for the machining...i’ll Just add it to the price...:)

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,265
29,180
Carmel Valley, CA
Some superior tobaccos do burn completely but many don't.
Aromatics excepted, (and because I have not enough experience with them), all good tobaccos I smoke will go to the bottom when they are properly dried
I've heard and agree on a fact that life is too short to force yourself with bad tasting smoke. A filter or a pipecleaner can fix gurgling just fine. If I had to suffer for 20 bowls to cure a wet smoking pipe (and if success was guaranteed) I probably wouldn't do it.
Not talking bad tasting smokes, nor was I addressing gurgling per se. I should have said "wet or funky". The idea behind this was to further cure the briar by the introduction of high heat where it'll do the most good in driving out moisture: the bottom half of the chamber.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,265
29,180
Carmel Valley, CA
Is anyone going to try this? Cost: diligence in smoking to the bottom fairly dry tobacco for a month or so. Payoff: Possibly turning a poor smoker into a good one.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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"Almost any pipe will benefit from having the airway and stem opened- it doesn't change the amount of moisture in the smoke, it's just not condensing on the walls of the pipe."
Blasting out stummels and stems is a great form of entertainment for me. 5/32" is my sweet spot as well.

 

luigi

Can't Leave
May 16, 2017
461
1,305
Europe
The idea behind this was to further cure the briar by the introduction of high heat where it'll do the most good in driving out moisture: the bottom half of the chamber.

Got you. As always, a thread goes in many different directions.
Cost: diligence in smoking to the bottom fairly dry tobacco for a month or so. Payoff: Possibly turning a poor smoker into a good one.

Noted. It's actually a good concrete advice. I don't feel experienced enough to try it. Obviously will have to master proper drying first to be able to get all the way down the bowl. When I don't smoke OTC crap ofcourse. :D

 

luigi

Can't Leave
May 16, 2017
461
1,305
Europe
Hah! You certainly sound like one who's open to trying "new" things, so I look forward to your posts on this eventually.

Haha, I'm defenitely open to anything, as long as it is enjoyable. I'm learning from the most experienced pipe smokers on the world, it's an honour. :D

The thing is it's hard to say what went wrong when a smoke is "wet and funky". My main problem is I'm a wet smoker (drooling excesively during smoking, a dentist confirmed it's different from person to person and there's hardly any solution). Tobacco is sometimes too wet. If it's too dry its flavour is reduced and therefore less enjoyable. Other time I'm sipping too fast or there's just any other unknown reason that will make smoking wet.

I've just smoked a bowl of Nightcap, which is definitely one of the best. There was still some dottle at the end, close to none but can't deny it. But hey, it tasted good, much better to dump a minimal dottle then to overdry it and burn it to the very last bit.

You probably know better how to define a wet smoking pipe and to be sure it's just a pipe's "fault".

 

hawky454

Lifer
Feb 11, 2016
5,345
10,189
Austin, TX
Like Zack mentioned, I prefer an open airway as I think they smoke much better that way. I have drilled out over two dozen pipes to Rick Newcombe’s specifications and I must say that I’m totally sold! Give it a try! Not only will it fix most gurgling problems but the pipe basically smokes itself.

 

menuhin

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 21, 2014
642
4
I can use a smoking machine with some totally dried out tobacco that I absolutely do not care to taste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoBGau9623I
Or, pay the boys next door to smoke that for me, just to make sure that they don't smoke too fast to burn the pipe. :nana:

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,265
29,180
Carmel Valley, CA
Just saw the video! A more useless but clever works I've seldom seen.
Hiring out to break in pipes was done in the 19th C in Paris, for sure, and probably London.

 

didimauw

Moderator
Staff member
Jul 28, 2013
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Jpmcwjr...
Let them enjoy their soggy pipes. :nana:
I smoke Carter Hall, and the last pouch I smoked lasted me a long time. The pouch dried out and was bone dry for at least 15 bowls. Granted, I'm smoking a cob, but I could tell the difference in moisture.
It doesn't even take that many bowls to make a difference. What I do, is take a dry dry bowls worth, pack it, and leave it in the bowl for a while. It soaks up the moisture.

 

workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
2,794
4,212
The Faroe Islands
I might. I have had a few bland smokes lately, and I am inclined to blame it on steam. So I just might do this. Especially with my bent Stanwell dublin shape. I am not a heavy smoker, so I'll let y'all know in a couple of years...

 
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