drwatson, no one is bashing PC we are just relying what is taking place with our orders. Notice no one has stopped ordering from them, it is just frustrating to see tins rattling around for no good reason. Once a tin loses it's seal then it has to be jarred, I don't want to go through the time and expense of jarring tins. I buy tins specifically because I can store them in their original containers. How hard is it to pack a box properly? How hard is it to use the right packing materials so tins do not get dented? Now remember PC never had issues in regards to packing before the buy out, it is just recently. An issue like this is very easily rectified but if people do not say anything, how is Russ going to let someone know there is a problem that needs fixing. Now that Russ is aware and I am sure has told the right people, we should see a change in packing methods.