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joshy

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Aug 26, 2011
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I don't really have a B&M, but I am fortunate enough to live next to one of the JRCigars outlets which has an amazing cigar section & a small-ish pipe section. They have maybe 15 counter top blends. The Rum one they used to have was really good. They also recently had what I was told was a request order of something called "Cherry Pancake". Had an ounce of that - Pretty nice as well. Picked up 2 ounces of "Amaretto" now that was nothing more than a disappointment.
They also have their own "1Q" blend which smells great, but I've yet to try it.
I guess for the most part the Tobaccos in the big airtight candy jars (lol) seem to be hit-or-miss, but of the blends that I have tried a majority of them have been spot on and for the some of the others that I haven't tried I've heard nothing but good things.
To each their own. :puffpipe:

 

jallen49

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Aug 11, 2011
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I think there is some confusion...
When I referred the Tinderbox to a Walmart store, I simply ment that like Walmart (which is a chain store), the Tinderbox is too a chain store, meaning there are multiple Tinderbox stores across the country. I was in no way presuming that Walmart itself carries tobacco blends (which would probably not be that good anyway).
Because the Tinderbox IS a chain tobacconist, I would not categorize it with a B&M store. Maybe my semantics are wrong, but I think of a B&M tobacco store as a locally owned tobacconist that may only have 1 or 2 locations in a given city.
And yes, I would agree with you Lawrence, it must be that most local B&M stores are not primarily pipe and pipe tobacco stores, but cigar stores that carry a few pipe related things.
Either way, it seems that I might be coming off as ungrateful, as many of you have expressed that you don't even have local B&M's to go to, and for that I apologize. I should be more grateful that I even have a B&M to refer to.
and... I really do need to try 1Q once and for all to see what all the fuss is about! :puffy:

 

clanobucklin

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 19, 2010
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I would agree with Lawrence, it must be that most local B&M stores are not primarily pipe and pipe tobacco stores, but cigar stores that carry a few pipe related things.

 

jar15a1

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Aug 13, 2011
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That was good information Lawrence. Thanks for taking the time to put that into writing.
No B&M here but... Im sure the Seattle area will have one that I will check out. In the meantime, Im really developing a taste for Bosewells. Good stuff.

 

dburrows

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 2, 2011
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So this discussion leads me to ask what may be a stupid question... What is the draw to cigars over pipes? I can't imagine that them being easier to deal with is a primary role (though I'm sure a significant one).
Fortunately the blends I've had at my local B&M are great and very affordable. I have no idea where they come from but this thread has really made me curious.

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
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Birmingham, AL
Thanks for the kind words fellas.
Something occurred to me early this morning, that I failed to address, one aspect of making a tobacco Shoppe profitable, considering the actual miniscule market share the occupy.
I used the term good-will equity. That is a rather ineffable quality that your really good tobacco retailers cultivate. Using Skip again as the example of the exemplary Shoppe Keeper.
William an I arranged to meet up at The Briary one afternoon... William beat me there, and told John that I was coming... as I walked in John remarked that William had said I'd be along shortly... and I said: "And you left the door, not only open, but unlocked... you'll let anybody in here."

Torpedo Juice
Skip does the little things that make his customers come back time and time again. Everyone knows (it is no secret) that the products he carries (for the most part) can be acquired via the Internet. But, what makes me drive 25 miles to give him my business? There are several that are quite tangible, many I have mentioned over time in other strings. Recently I addressed his manner and method when a potential pipe smoker enters his store.

Last year's US Slow Smoke Champion Raymond (Birmingham0irish) expressed his love of our local in his posting: Due Diligence

Here is an excerpt:

A trip to the Briary is more like visiting the house of an old uncle or grandfather than a trip to just a tobacco store. In addition to the front room displaying a plethora of pipes, tinned tobaccos, and jars and jars of house blends, there is also the smoking lounge, featuring coffee tables, a tv, a wicker sofa, two overstuffed couches and an overstuffed chair. Behind the smoking room is the Briary’s walk in cigar humidor. A large porch surrounds the house, complete with two wooden rocking chairs and a metal rusted outdoor swinging sofa. A few steps through an open door frame brings you to another room where the shop features a display of Cigar Humidors, and 2 additional cases featuring lighters, pipe pouches and tampers. To the left is a kitchen, which houses a refrigerator filled with soft drinks and a place for the regular customers to store other beverages if they so chose. John, the Briary’s manager since, well, I don’t know how long, is a balding man with a beard, quick with funny stories about his neighborhood or dirty jokes not for the feint of heart. Skip, the store owner, is a red-bearded man with an encyclopedic knowledge of pipes and pipe accessories. Every trip to the Briary while Skip is working is not complete without Skip rushing to your side with a case of pipes saying with a huge smile “You won’t believe what we got in today!”, followed by a discussion about the grain of his new inventory and of course an invitation to purchase. Saturday’ also feature Mark, who serves as the Briary’s weekend salesman and often, the unfortunate straight man to John’s tirade of humourous tales. This is the pipe and cigar smoker’s version of “Cheers”.

Raymond says: "A trip to the Briary is more like visiting the house of an old uncle or grandfather than a trip to just a tobacco store.".. It's true... This is from this string.

You might say they have been a part of the family for many years. When Skip's father still owned the Tinder Box and had just installed some beautiful Hunter Green Carpet in the store the War Department and I visited to show off our beautiful baby girl, Crystal. (Crystal is expecting in May... Damn I'm getting old.)

So, being Crystal, she did something that is fondly remembered by all at "The Briary" till this day. She threw up on the carpet. And they don't let her forget it. :D

Good-will equity has to be earned, it cannot be given, but Skip does give to his customers... I have never mentioned this before, but he adds value to you patronage. On the counter behind the jars of Aros that line the top of Meerschaum display is a rolodex... In that relic is a record of every tobacco purchase I and every other pipe smoking customer has ever made... When his customer reaches 15 lbs. of tobacco, he gives you a pound of your choice... just to reward customer loyalty... I personally never think about it, but many times over the years Skip or John will say: You've reached 15, whatch'a want?
Skip sells cigars, and some cheap tobaccos to pay the bills... But, at the end of the day.... it's love of pipes and his customers.
Edit: I must also interject this... My perception of The Briary and Skip is colored by my pipe smoking. I do have a couple of favorite cigars that I occasionally treat myself with... Don't get me wrong... Skip's humidor is definitely the best in Birmingham... And, his cigar customers are just as important and are treated just as well as his pipe customers. There are many friendly and familiar faces holding down the counters and puffing on some fine stogies chatting away with pipers, and vice versa.

 
Jul 15, 2011
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By the way, Lawrence, I have a bone to pick with you, sir. Your constant talk of 1Q led me to buying three ounces of the stuff and I am now addicted. It ranks right up there with chocolate, McDonalds, and Swedish Women in terms of sinfulness. I have already smoked my way through all three ounces. Lawrence, why did you pressure me so?! 8O
OK, OK, Im kidding. But I did really try 1Q based on your love of the stuff and I find I really, really like it. Thank you for steering me in that direction.

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
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Birmingham, AL
My pleasure.

It's my main "go to"...

I smoke it in between the boutique blends... makes them easier to taste and their flavors come alive.

 
May 3, 2010
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Las Vegas, NV
I love aromatics, so it's not really a problem for me. There are numerous B&M house blends that taste very similar, but here in Vegas Tobacco Town has a very good selection of house blends with different falvorings. I will say, even though I'm not in to English blends right now local B&M's need to start doing more English blends in their house blends. Usually English fans are lucky if there's a Dunhill EMP or Nightcap version by their B&M.

 

sherlock

Can't Leave
Aug 21, 2011
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CACooper,
Edwards on Broadway. I Should say I haven't been there since they moved to the location next door, but they have always been great to me.
Also, I think we should support cigar smokers. As Lawrence said, they keep the shops that we buy our tobacco from in business. Luxury tobacco smokers (my term to differentiate between cigar/pipe smokers and cigarette smokers) need to stick together if we are going to be able to smoke in the future. I would also say it is better to have a store that has some tobacco than no store at all.

 

judcole

Lifer
Sep 14, 2011
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Detroit
My local B&M has his own blends - they are not, to the best of my knowledge, re-labelled Lane's, etc. He is irregular on his english bends - he much prefers aromatics. His latest, however, is the best he has had in years; I smoke it pretty regularly.

Other than that the B&Ms around here are pretty much "cigarette" stores that have a humidor for cigars, and maybe a few pipes and tobacco. The folks that own these don't smoke, and don't know much - if anything - about their products - they could be selling widgets.

Three of the legendary Michigan pipe shops - Paul's in Flint, Campbell's in East Lansing,and Maison Edwards in Ann Arbor - are with a 90 minute drive from me. All of them are old time pipe shops with their own blends. They all do mail order,although none do e-commerce, AFAIK. They have some pretty decent blends - I'll pick up something if I am in the vicinity - but nothing of the "Oh My God" variety. I gotta check out the place in Riverview listed in the pipe stores section here.

 

clanobucklin

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 19, 2010
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I have avoided most BM store blends for years - since they all seem to stock the same Stokkebye tobaccos - just slap their name on them with a cute monicker. All the blends taste the same despite the different names. The problem I have with BM Aromatic & English is that there is too much humidifying agent which envariably over shadows the taste of the tobacco and burns the heck out of my tongue. I have been a boutique blend smoker since the late 1980's. My local BM panders strictly to the Cigar Elite with just a token stocking of pipes and crappy store blends. I used to smoke cigars until the cost drove me out of the habit/desire to smoke them. Also I got tired of the crowd that hung out there. (The bigger/more expensive cigar = The Bigger The Ego - seemed to be the sum of that equation). I am hoping that a real pipe store will open in my area - but since I live in CA - this will remain an unlikely wish.

 

pipedisciple

Starting to Get Obsessed
Aug 18, 2011
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I go to JR's in Selma ,NC. Not only are the house blends not bad (Lane) but they have a great selection of tinned tobacco. If in the area stop by, it will suprise you.

 

creekspecter

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May 25, 2011
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Lawrence, I appreciate your analysis, it's spot on. My local B&M has been in business long enough to have provided LBJ with smokes. The bulks are Stokkebye, because they are inexpensive, but McClelland's when Rob can afford them. He brews his own when he can afford to do so. I had a chat with him yesterday (he opened the store early to let me in), and he baldly stated that he has to buy his product every other month, because he has to budget for taxes the other six months of the year. I'm not a huge aro fan, but I do buy them from him. His recommendations are always good, and he's helped me learn to appreciate Stokkebye's tobaccos. He blends his own, when he can afford the components. He has a great "Texas English" cross-over that's maybe available two months out of the year. His business is equally split between cigars and pipes/tobaccos, yet is dying on the vine, due to taxes and the fact that the local campus has decided that it's now a "smoke-free zone." Thankfully, the bars and restaurants aren't, and it's great when all of the good ole boys are in the shop, telling stories about what was what back when, and the air is filled with smoke. How long that will last is anybody's guess. Anti-smoking zealots and taxes are erasing a big part of what was Texas.
I believe there are a lot of b&M owners who would provide top shelf house blends, if only they could afford them. Tobacco taxes are strangling the locals, and whining from non-smokers (who don't even patronize these places, but see all evil in the word 'tobacco') is suffocating them. But, like Rob said, they'll keep taking the tax money in order to stop us from smoking, but continue allowing the sale of tobacco, in order to collect the taxes. Madness.
And Lawrence, he does sell 1Q (his number one seller), and if only for that reason, I will patronize his business. Thanks for turning me on to it.

 
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