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allan

Lifer
Dec 5, 2012
2,429
8
Bronx, NY
I feel for you, Snewton.
I recall finally telling my mother that I smoked grass when I was seventeen, (several centuries ago). I was going to 'turn her on', as the saying went back then, but I had to go to work and didn't have the time. She was totally cool about it until my father came home; to him, he felt that heroin was just around the corner. My life's pursuit was going to be in music and from his point of view all musicians were drug addicts. He freaked out and made life miserable for me in one way or another until I moved out, at 17.
When they found out later that I was smoking a pipe, I think my dad was relieved; maybe he thought I gave up smoking pot!
It's amazing how the world has changed. I'm sure it is for the greater good that children are taught that smoking cigarettes is a very bad thing; the challenge is to get folks to distinguish between chemicals, inhaling and smoking a cigar or a pipe.

 

drwatson

Lifer
Aug 3, 2010
1,721
8
toledo
Wow thats a tuff one. I'm firmly entrenched in my 30's and also very close to my mom. So when momma isnt happy, no one is happy! I know the meaning of that. Ya know we dont know your background, or circumstances. So the best advice I could give would be just dont smoke around her, or when you know you may be going over for a visit. Spray some aftershave on. She'll think she raised the best smelling son on the block. Be kind to her, but it's not like your doing things that are illegal. My mom can't stand that I have a slightly different political view then she does, so we just dont discuss that. She'll be your mom no matter what..
Unless your smoking Haunted Bookshop! then she has a right to be mad :D

 

snewton

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 18, 2012
193
0
UK
It is amazing just how many chemicals there are in a factory cig. To be honest with you all I am actually rather against cigs. Not the people, just the nail. Nasty things full of below standard tobacco. The equivalent of a cheap vodka to get drunk as opposed to a fine single malt to savour.

It would be nice if the wider world could see the difference too.

 

snewton

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 18, 2012
193
0
UK
drwatson, when momma aint happy I'm definitely not! but mainly because she has had some hard times and I don't want to contribute to her angst, even if it is an unnecessary feeling that she has.

 

numbersix

Lifer
Jul 27, 2012
5,449
68
At least she completely doesn't mind the pipe!
That's a start. It's hard I think for a parent to accept something very different and out of the blue. I would suggest giving it some time, smoke on your own time, not hiding too much, but not making a show of it either.
Sounds like you really love your mother, and I am sure she knows it and will likely come around.

 

snewton

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 18, 2012
193
0
UK
Thanks numbersix, that makes a lot of sense. I guess I did hit her kinda cold but then there isn't really any other way to do it, so it will have seemed very out of the blue.

to clarify incase it seems muddled, it is my partner who has no problem with the pipe.

 

theboz

Can't Leave
Mar 12, 2013
355
0
United States
I had a similar response when I told my Mom about smoking cigars a couple years ago...she still says she doesn't like it, but she has accepted that I do it(especially since it isn't cigarettes). I just don't smoke when I'm going to be around her so that I don't give her a reminder that I do smoke.

 

snewton

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 18, 2012
193
0
UK
Yeah I'm gunna have to avoid smoking around her. Would feel too uncomfortable anyway. Especially as she obviously still thinks about cigs sometimes.

 

trailspike48

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 15, 2013
768
4
Honesty is the only way to go. I'm pretty sure I got married once trying to live up to a lie I told just to get laid. Another of life's lessons learned.

 

zonomo

Lifer
Nov 24, 2012
1,584
5
Hey Stuart - you didnt mention if you lived with her or not (sorry if I missed that). Her house, her rules. Regardless, you did the right thing but you should respect her wishes unless you're playing the bills brother.

 

appointed

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 8, 2013
117
1
I think you did the right thing by telling, but don't get your hopes up on her coming around. My parents are the same way. It's just cigarette tobacco in a pipe and I'll get addicted and lung cancer et cetera ad nauseaum. Big mess that was... Sorry if this ain't what you were hoping for, but I had to be honest. You're an adult now and the choice to smoke or not is ultimately yours, but if you're living with your mom or if she continues to put up a fight over it, then you might want to consider smoking away from her or put it up for the time being. Sometimes you have to sacrifice to keep the peace. I thoroughly enjoy every aspect of my hobby, but I do refrain from smoking around my parents and I don't talk about it or anything. It's sort of the unspoken evil. That has just been my experience with it. My grandparents didn't approve, yet they didn't complain. They worried about me having smoked nails for years and suffering for it now, but they said I was an adult. Different people will react differently. I do hope you manage to work everything out and that your mom comes around.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
81
Northern New Jersey
Go out and buy some flowers for your mom. Then, print this out and give it to your mom to read.
Why I smoke a pipe.
I routinely use this missive as a broad sheet to answer the question of "Why I smoke a pipe". A question so often asked by many of my anti-tobacco friends. Friends, I might add, that give me a hard time whenever I light up my tobacco pipe. You see, I'm a reader, and my heroes are those I read about. And usually they involve men who smoked a pipe.
Run your eyes down the list below of names and see how many you recognize. Collectively, I would argue, these men actually made the 20th Century, both literally and figuratively. To a man, all avid pipe smokers, each and every one. Moreover, many lived well beyond the average lifespan of their day, many passing in their mid- to late-eighties.
Albert Einstein, Mark Twain, William Faulkner, John Steinbeck, Norman Rockwell, Orson Wells, JRR Tolkein, CS Lewis, Douglas MacArthur, Admiral Arleigh Burke, Stanley Baldwin, Neville Chamberlain, Bing Crosby, President Gerald Ford, Carl Sandburg, Harold Macmillan, Konrad Lorenz, Errol Flynn, Edgar Rice Burroughs, John D. MacDonald, Warner Baxter, Thomas Selfridge, Charles Nelson Reilly, Ossip Zadkine, , Max Frisch, , Paul Casals, Jack Lynch, Patrick Moore, Anthony Hulme, Ronald Colman, Alexander Kent, Jacques Brel, Lino Ventura, Alfred Wainwright, Rudolph Bultmann, Philippe Sollers, Jean Gabin, Leo Malet, G.E. Moore, Gilbert Ryle, Edmund Husserl, J.L. Austin, Lalo Schifrin, James Whitmore, Anthony Quayle, Ralph Richardson, Bernard Grebanier, Jean-Paul Sartre, Stanley Holloway, , Carl Jung, Paul Kruger, Curd Jurgens, Gerard Walschap, Trevor Howard, Tony Benn, Rod Hull, Trevor Baylis, Joss Ackland, Frank Muir, Manny Shinwell, Jack Hargreaves, Warren Mitchell, Rupert Davies, Russ Abbot, Van Gordon Sauter, Walter Cronkite, Robert Fulghum, Milorad Pavić, Glenn Ford, Erwin Shrodinger, Moustapha Akkad, Evelyn Waugh, Harold Wilson, Bertrand Russell, Alf Landon, Edgar Buchanan, Dean Jagger, Edward G. Robinson, Rudyard Kipling, Aaron Spelling, P.G. Wodehouse, Allen Dulles, Otto Klemperer, Henry Fonda, Lee Van Cleef, Jack Lemmon, Peter Cushing, Barry Fitzgerald, Hume Cronyn, Graham Chapman, Nigel Bruce, Bennet Cerf, Raymond Chandler, Alexander Graham Bell, Arthur Frank, Richard E. Byrd, Gregory Peck, Albert King, Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown, Edward Abbey, Juan Trippe, Frank Sinatra, General George S. Patton, Jacques Derrida, Hurbert Hoover, Sid James, Fred Trueman, Vincent Schiavelli, Eric Morecambe, Stephen Fry, Fred Thompson, Roscoe Dickinson, Guy N. Smith, Gunter Grass, Sean O'Casey, A.A. Milne, Sir Compton Mackenzie, Laurie Lee, W. Somerset Maugham, J.B. Priestly, Andre Dubus, Gordon Parks, F.A. Mitchell-Hedges, W.W. Denslow, William Conrad, William Gillette, Edwin Hubble, Rober Oppenheimer, Niels Bohr, Robert Young, Clark Gable, Fred MacMurray, Ralph Bellamy, Cary Grant, David Ogilvy, Sir Winston Churchill, Kind George VI, Arthur Miller, Ernest Hemingway, John Ford, Shelby Foote, Herschel Burke Gilbert, Thomas Johnston Taylor, Theodor Geisel (Dr. Seuss), Sir John Mills, Owen Barfield, Alan Christopher "Al" Deere, Elliot Harold Paul, Healey Willan, Harold Tucker Webster.
After perusing such a list, I ask: Can it be that the greatest minds of the 20th Century were all common miscreants, who did not fully fathom "what they were doing to themselves"? Are we, with all our advances of modern science, more intelligent than they were? How many men today can you count that can measure to the list above? I am hard pressed to find a handfull, if that.
We current tobacco pipe smokers actually represent the historical legacy of a community of world pipe smokers, a community which, in the not too distant past, encompassed some 35% of the adult males in the United States. Lest it not be forgotten, these anonymous pipe smokers were our grandfathers, and allowed for the freedoms many of us enjoy today. Although far fewer in number today, we nevertheless still hold the candle to the memory of these men and the deeds they accomplished, with, of course, a pipe in hand.

 

philip

Lifer
Oct 13, 2011
1,705
6
Puget Sound
...as she makes up her mind quick and then there can be no reasoning.

No arguments can win over a person who chooses to be unreasonable. You may suffer some from that; just make sure you don't suffer from becoming unreasonable in return.
Honesty is always a good thing. Good for you.

 

withnail

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 30, 2011
737
1
United Kingdom
Good for you for coming clean. If your Mum is any different with you, you could stress that the reason you told her is that you would have hates her to find out another way and your honesty came out of respect for her.
Hope it all works out well.

 

piperl12

Part of the Furniture Now
Apr 7, 2012
970
7
Well, as a parent who has been watching this thread for a bit I am going to weight in. You Mom doesn't feel any better about you smoking a pipe than she would if you told her you regularily play in traffic. Just because you play in traffic doesn't mean you are automatically going to get hit by a car but the chances in her mind increase exponentially. She is a Mom, any risk you take will not be ok with her. It's her nature to want to protect you from everything for your entire life. Such is the paradox of parenthood. We want our kids to grow up independent and strong and yet we constantly face the question of when to cut the apron strings. My wife is faced with this regarding our four boys all the time. You Mom will not be ok with your smoking a pipe because she perceives it as an unecessary risk. There is not any point in debating this with her. When I joined the Army and became a Paratrooper my Mom got mad at me and didn't speak to me for a week. She wasn't really made at me, she was made at herself because she realized she could no longer protect me from every bump in the night. Enjoy your pipe, she will understand her position in your life soon enough. Just don't every blame her for wanting to do right by you. She is your Mother, the ONLY person that will ever care that much about you. Some day when she is not there anymore you will pain for the days that someone in this world could care that much. Good luck!

 

snewton

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 18, 2012
193
0
UK
Thank you all for your sound advice.

I would like to let you all know that now a couple of days later she has been absolutely fine with me.

I think she may see some small reason though doubtless she is still not agreeable.

Everything will be ok.

Thank you all for the help and and advice!

 
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