Comoys 409 Grand Slam

[niblicck]

I just checked with Steve Laug, at Reborn Pipes (I also contribute there). He has a few blog entries on the various stingers used, but he too has never seen a stinger pinned to a tenon. Those kind of pins would have to be incrediby small. Even so, with a tenon inner diameter of a few mm's, any pin thru the tenon would be quite an obstruction. (I'd use a micro drill bit from an index as a pin punch to remove it) I'd have to see one broken down to believe this is even possible. I'm confident that the stinger in question is a friction fit.

1. stinger tapped with female threads
2. Tubed has male threads that were die cut

 

[ssjones]

View attachment 627261. stinger tapped with female threads
2. Tubed has male threads that were die cut

Ok, that makes sense. (I think) NOT pinned thru the tenon, but rather the insert is threaded into the tenon, then a stinger inserted onto that aluminum piece. I have never personally seen one of these but think I understand it now. A pin thru the tenon did definitely not make sense!

 

[niblicck]

Ok, that makes sense. (I think) NOT pinned thru the tenon, but rather the insert is threaded into the tenon, then a stinger inserted onto that aluminum piece. I have never personally seen one of these but think I understand it now. A pin thru the tenon did definitely not make sense!

View attachment 62727

Ok, that makes sense. (I think) NOT pinned thru the tenon, but rather the insert is threaded into the tenon, then a stinger inserted onto that aluminum piece. I have never personally seen one of these but think I understand it now. A pin thru the tenon did definitely not make sense!

View attachment 62727

Yep. I think that's how that one is assembled.

 

[simong]

Crikey! The controversy rages! Lol. Here's some 'hopefully' better photos which may or may not help explain why I think the stinger is tapped/pinned through the tenon. I bought both these Comoys in a new/unsmoked condition. The larger billiard (291) has an identical stinger to the other one but is a freely removable push fit. On receiving the 64 tried all the usual methods of removing the stinger, leaving in the fridge for a couple of days/ pouring alcohol in & around the stem & stinger etc.(no joy) Resorted to placing a pair of 'mole grips' on the end of the stinger, which originally was flush up against the tenon. After some 'serious' pulling I stopped, as I felt it was about to shatter. The stinger actually came out a fraction, which you can see in the photo. What I think is the tap/pin had travelled/sunk a little bit with the pulling. I don't know, it's not a mark or a blemish or even a hole. It looks,feels like it's a tap & it shouldn't be there, but it is. What else can it be?