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flmason

Lifer
Oct 8, 2012
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I just noticed a special top of the line pipe on Ebay:
Comoy's Specimen Straight Grain
I am not mentioning the vendor since that would be against forum guidelines. If you are interested in this pipe please take a look on Ebay.
I know these pipes do not come up often so I thought I would pass the word along to anyone interested.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
70
Northern New Jersey
I've seen perhaps a dozen Specimen Straight Grain Comoys over the last decade on eBay. I own one. This particular Dublin #250 example is nice, and so far at a low bid, but sure not to last long. But the graining and the staining leave much to be desired. The best examples of this grade were double stained to reveal almost black angel hair grain. This was the staining regimen used on Blue Ribands and some early Traditions and Grand Slams, among others. This particular example is honey stained and thus does a dis-service to the grain it carries IMHO. Also in this example the field of straight grain is not consistent around the bowl. Should the pipe sell in the $250 to $350 range it'll be a good buy. Should it bid upwards of $400 then it is a poor example for that outlay of cash in my opinion. I've seen really nice examples bid upwards of $700+. My two cents.

 

flmason

Lifer
Oct 8, 2012
1,131
3
I just watched this auction end. The final price was $705.00.
I did not bid but just watched.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
70
Northern New Jersey
Oh, wow. I think $705 is way too high for that pipe. Like I said I've seen much better examples sell for much less. That seller, although I've bought my fair share of pipes from him, seems consistently to command top prices on all his pipes, despite no reserve 7 day auctions. Credit due to where its due I guess. But at times its a bit uncanny.

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
70
Northern New Jersey
Here's a much nicer stained one, with better grain. And a more rare shape to boot. Although more used, I'd be mighty surprised if it gets to the $700 range, like the one above. Heck I might bid just to get the ball rolling. There, its done. Should go for around $350 tops.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HERMIT-COMOYS-SPECIMEN-STRAIGHT-GRAIN-233-DIAMOND-SHANK-STRAIGHT-BULLDOG-/261246776523

 

plateauguy

Lifer
Mar 19, 2013
2,412
21
Does anyone know when Comoy will be releasing their new pipes in the Fall? I'm starting to hyper-ventilate.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,648
What if any relationship do these high end Comoy's have with the low-end machine pipes, Chapuis Comoy?

Did the handmades break off into a separate outfit, or is it all part of one pipe making company?

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
70
Northern New Jersey
Usually collectors are after early pre-1980 Comoys. These can be identified by the three part C inlay on the stem. The company was one of the earliest, starting in the 19th Century and moving to England shortly thereafter. As expected there have been a lot of changes, and a lot of different grades offered. Probably the best place to start learning about Comoys is Pipedia.
http://pipedia.org/wiki/Comoy
http://pipedia.org/index.php?title=Comoy%27s_Dating_Guide
Now these two Comoy examples in the earlier part of the thread are the most highly sought after grade, the Specimen Straight Grain. Even higher than the Blue Riband grade. Hence the high prices. But there are many three part C Comoys to be had on eBay for between $100 and $200. Also there are a number of Comoy seconds to be had for well under a hundred. The situation becomes somewhat complicated because Comoy also made millions of pipes for other companies, department stores, and tobacconists, not stamped Comoys. Usually these can be identified by the shape number, if present, which corresponds to the Comoy sharp chart, or by the Made in London rondell over a straight England.
Comoy Shape Chart -
http://pipedia.org/index.php?title=Comoy%27s_Shape_Number_Chart
Comoy catalogs -
http://pipepages.com/64comoy3.htm
http://pipepages.com/comoy
This, by the way, is a great site full of resources for anyone interested in the history of pipes.
http://pipepages.com/index.html

 

kashmir

Lifer
May 17, 2011
2,712
70
Northern New Jersey
No thread on Comoys would be complete without mentioning Neill Archer Roan's blog which contains many wonderful entries on brand Comoy. Here's a sample to get you started.
Grand Slam -
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-photo-blog/2011/9/27/grand-slam.html
The Package -
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2012/10/20/the-package.html
Comoy Large Bent Billiard -
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2011/1/31/at-last-a-comoy-blue-riband-large-bent-billiard.html
Broken Pipe: Derek Green
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2010/6/15/broken-pipe-derek-green.html
Buyers Beware -
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2011/4/16/comoy-blue-riband-buyers-beware.html
Recreating the Comoy three-part C Stem Inlay -
http://www.apassionforpipes.com/neills-blog/2011/10/22/recreating-comoys-3-part-c.html

 
Jan 8, 2013
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I happen to have personally seen the Specimen 250 Dublin that went for $705, as it used to belong to another well known Ebay seller/collector who I've bought many pipes from. Even at the high bid I am almost certain there was little profit seen for the consignor/owner.
As I remember, the pipe is much deeper in color than is depicted on the Ebay photos with greater grain contrast.
Sometimes flash can "bleach" out areas of a pipe, making some sections look weaker than reality. If memory serves me correctly, the areas on the 250 dublin which appear on the Ebay pics to be bald spots with no grain, were actually very tight angel hair straight grain.
In addition, when a certain type of pipe brings a good price, sometimes another example of the same type will follow on Ebay within a week or two. I suspect this is what happened with the Specimen Straight Grain bulldog that shortly followed the closing bid on the 250 Dublin.
This can make a type of pipe appear more common than it really is. In reality Specimen Straight Grain is a rare pipe.
Given it's condition I was not surprised at the amount of the closing bid on the Dublin. However once again citing condition, I WAS surprised at the amount the Bulldog realized.
Getting back to the subject of Ebay photos, I once bought a pipe that looked light orange, and was in fact a chestnut brown when it arrived. Seller explained this was caused by the high intensity light he uses.
Accordingly, pics can be enhanced, colored , sharpened and what have you, so always make sure of a return guarantee.

You can be pleasantly surprised, or greatly disappointed.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
P.S. The most incredible Comoy I've ever seen come up on Ebay was a Blue Riband Extraordinaire 309 Canadian that was also stamped "Straight Grain". Anyone ever seen another Comoy with all those 3 stampings?

 
Aug 1, 2012
4,894
5,725
USA
Is this "enhancement" wrong?
I think that if the enhancement only helps to show true color, sheen, etc, it is a great tool. If, however, it's used like a certain seller on ebay who advertises "always shiny" and then photoshops fills, it is absolutely wrong.

 

ssjones

Moderator
Staff member
May 11, 2011
19,076
13,274
Covington, Louisiana
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Welcome nyhorseman, interesting comments. I have been watching your auctions as well.
P.S. The most incredible Comoy I've ever seen come up on Ebay was a Blue Riband Extraordinaire 309 Canadian that was also stamped "Straight Grain". Anyone ever seen another Comoy with all those 3 stampings?
I remember discussing this pipe but can't recall from which forum.

 

docwatson

Lifer
Jul 2, 2009
1,149
10
New England
From everything I have read about the shiny pipes, that seller has a less than stellar reputation for being deceptive at times. I cannot say for myself as I refuse to do business with someone with a questionable reputation.

Back to Comoy Pipes, as rare as the Specimen Straight Grain pipes are concerned, I think they are way over priced for what they are. Blue Riband pipes IMO are also on the high end of the spectrum but are still a little more available and desirable.

 

mlyvers

Can't Leave
Sep 23, 2012
487
0
Hey guys, I have what i think are seconds from comoy pipes. I have a straight apple Everymans pipe. The second is The Academy Award straight pot that was given to me by a friend of my wife. I have not smoke the pot, but the apple smokes very good. I was just wondering what your thoughts are on these two pipes.
Thanks.

Mike.

 

snagstangl

Lifer
Jul 1, 2013
1,635
815
Iowa, United States
I have an everyman that i just restemmed, It had a touch of burn out but i paid little for it because it didnt have a stem. It smoked great. I also have some sunrise pipes from before the 70's I think and those are seconds as well.

Plenty of fills but smoke like champs. If you are interested in smoking and not looking great their seconds are pretty good in my experiance.

 
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