Clove Pipe Tobacco Experiment
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OK. That's interesting. Clove cigarettes definitely pop and crackle. Based on your report, it must be something other than clove that does that or the cloves in the cigs are in bigger pieces.
I'm smoking a homemade Kretek right now. Definitely pops. I do a rough grind on my cloves - I can illustrate after work.
The ground clove I use is finely ground, that might be why it doesn't pop.
I actually have been wanting to try this for a long time. Steven Books had a blend that had rose pedals in it, that stuff was amazing. I had a McConnell blend with rose pedals in it too, pretty good stuff but not strong enough for me and hard to get in the States. I just haven’t really looked into where I could find food grade rose pedals, there are so many varieties these days and a lot of them really have no fragrance. One of these days I plan to get off my arse and try this.
This thread reminds me of a time when my ex brother in law took up the pipe for about a year. He was complaining about a blend that ghosted his pipe, I gave him all the tobacco he had so I asked him which blend it was. I forgot what blend he used but he put a couple of sticks of Extra spearmint chewing gum in the bag of pipe tobacco for a week or so to add a menthol flavor. He’s really not a dumb man but this lil experiment of his was just stupid!
Interesting. I enjoy Crooner; the deer tongue is a nice compliment to the burley. I can’t see why clove wouldn’t be that little extra something for a burley.
McConnell has a blend, Red Roses, not sold in the US, that contains rose petals. I hope to try it one day.
Rose petals are edible.
The Chinese sometimes add dried rose buds to their tea. I was given a bag some time ago.
I have seen bags of dried rose buds for sale in Asian supermarkets as well as tea shops.
Dried rose petals are used in confectionary and cake making. You may be able to source them from shops selling food ingredients
Also Middle Eastern, Indian and Persian cuisine use a lot rose water and rose essence.
D'oh, @hawky454, I just saw that you had already mentioned the McConnell in your post. I blame it on my bad eyes.
Not to go waaaayyyyy off topic. I’ll just say this. There are herbal smoke shops that sell all kinds of herbs and non nicotine stuff to mix with medicinal herbs…and then smoke. They also sell the mixes to smoke on their own. Supposedly they have some benefits and no nicotine. All kinds of interesting stuff that can be smoked apparently.
Yep when I first started making my own I was grinding my clove fine - I noticed it never made the "Kretek" sound (Kretek, I believe, is actually Indonesian onomatopoeia for the crackle sound they make) AND it didn't deliver as much flavor as I wanted.
By making it a bit more coarse I got an increase in both sound and flavor.
here's the cloves I use..
To grind them I use a ceramic burr grinder. The final product looks like this -
Please do! I’ve been thinking about adding some to St. Bruno to see if it would enhance the mild floral note that’s already in there.
I have never tried the dried leaves but I always use a splash of rose water in my iced tea… it’s delicious!
It’s funny you mention the cake, I have a concentrated rose tincture that I bought from an Asian market. On the back it gives you a guide on how much to use in cakes, boiled sweets, biscuits, icing, creams and even fudge. You are right, other cultures are used to florals in their foods, drinks and even gum. You never, or rarely see florals in foods in the US, which is another reason why I think Americans have such a hard time with it in their tobacco (Lakelands), we equate it to soaps, fragrances and cleaners, not something we consume regularly. I would personally love to try cake with floral notes in it. I went on a mission to find a floral Turkish Delight but I couldn’t find any that had rose or florals in them in Austin, they were all Americanized.. even the TD’s I bought at the Greek and Asian markets.