Cleaning Tip: Bands and Rims

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sparrowhawk

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A while back I asked for some ideas on how to clean rims. Most of the answers didn't offer anything definitive except for using saliva and cloth. I checked out the 'net about cleaning silver, and came up consistently with the answer of baking soda mixed with water. I tried mixing baking soda with water into a paste, and dabbed that onto an Irish Harp band in sore need of careful cleaning; in less than 15 minutes the gunk color (probably some stain as well) could be seen discoloring the paste, at which time I gingerly scaped off the surface paste and wiped off the remainder. Worked well, got most of the gunk off. Did a second applicationm and that removed the remainder. In the tiny bowl where the paste resided, I tossed in the band and removed it at about the same time. It wiped off clean. Didn't seem to work as well on a nickel band, however.

Hope someone finds this useful.

 

cosmicfolklore

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Tarnish is when the metal picks up an extra atom, mostly oxygen or another smaller atom. You cannot force the silver to release the atom without refining the metal using very reactive processes. But, with either an acid or a base you can dissolve these molecules leaving a clean surface. Baking soda is high ph with a built in abbrassive, so you're removing a fairly significant amount of metal. This works with ketchup, spit, coffee, Bon Ami, and many, many over the counter polishes. They all work, but done too often you can be left with a significat amount of the metal eaten away. I see this day in and day out with silver. Silver has a small atom, compared to gold and platinum, and it has a moderate melecular bond, which makes it prone to dissolving easily. I've seen silver urns used for coffee get holes eaten in them from today's highly acidic coffee.
Also, metal has, on a microscopic level, all these hairs or shards that will stick up, making the metal have more surface area, patina-ing faster, and leaving it with a bone white to low luster. All of these home remedies leave the metal suseptable to further faster oxidation and low polish. Brushing down the surface gently with a polishing cloth, you get a high shine, protevted surface sealed by laying all the hairs down, and more reflectove color. The polishing cloth has two layers sewn together. The light sode has an acid abrasive that will remove the moleculse. So, use the light side very gently. The darler side is designed to lay down the metal's surface. I use the acidic abrassive side on my stems, and only on metal that really needs to be cleaned. The other side is what I actually polish the metal with.
But, people really like to use these home remedies. And, if someone really wants to use them, they have my blessing. It is cool to see the metal dissolve right before your eyes. It keeps me in the repair business. Sort of like my dentist gives the kids chewing gum after cleaning their teeth. :puffy:

 

sparrowhawk

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Jul 24, 2013
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Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware polishing cloth had special qualities for polishing--just a name for a nice piece of lint-free cloth. I'll have to get some to avoid damaging the pipe rings in the future.

 

shawnofthedead

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With silver bands it's best to use proper silver polishing cloth. I always wanted to know how to deal with metals other than silver though, because my polishing cloth don't work too well on other types.

 

cosmicfolklore

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On brass, I will wager that what looks like tarnish is actually a coating of the tar-y sticky sulfides from smoking. Copper based alloys attract it like a magnet. The polish cloth will work, maybe a little extra oomph is needed, but you can also cut that sticky layer with just a tad bit of window cleaner on a soft cloth to just remove the goop without removing much of the metal. Don't put the window cleaner on the polishing cloth but a soft cotton, and then you can use a polishing cloth (dark side) to bring back a luster.
BTW - nickel bands are really brass with a larger amount of nickel in the mix. There are no pure nickel bands as they would be hell yo work with. Pure nickel is more like a ceramic than a metal and is really only used in jet turbines and specialized motors engineered for high heat.

 

shawnofthedead

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@cosmic Thanks man, I'll be sure to try that one. I'm not too good at telling metals apart though, the only ones I recognise are silver and brass. I wonder if any other kinds of metal are frequently used to make bands, like say, stainless steel?

 

cosmicfolklore

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I have a Neerup with a stainless band, so I know that they're out there. But, you would treat them as you would brass. However, I have not had any problems with stainless on my Neerup keeping it's shine and color. The reason silver and gold are preferred for repair bands is that they stretch easily and contract in measurable degrees, keeping the shank nice and tight. Stainless is pretty rigid.

 

lifesizehobbit

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I too was going to suggest a silver or polishing cloth. My wife is a flautist and I use her flute polishing cloth on the silver and brass with pretty good success.

 
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