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Eastmon

Might Stick Around
Jan 9, 2022
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204
Vancouver, BC
Title edited for capitalization. Rule 9!

I’ve been having the odd cigarette during the day to fix the nic and have noticed a dramatic drop off in flavor when I sit down to have my pipe end of day.

Anyone else experienced this? Or is there something else at play?
 
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timt

Lifer
Jul 19, 2018
2,844
22,739
I’ve been having the odd cigarette during the day to fix the nic and have noticed a dramatic drop off in flavor when I sit down to have my pipe end of day.

Anyone else experienced this? Or is there something else at play?
Absolutely, yes. When it gets too cold to smoke outside, I begin to dabble with smokeless tobacco and find it harder to enjoy my pipes as much. My taster gets thrown way off.
 

workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
2,794
4,230
The Faroe Islands
I’ve been having the odd cigarette during the day to fix the nic and have noticed a dramatic drop off in flavor when I sit down to have my pipe end of day.

Anyone else experienced this? Or is there something else at play?
I agree completely. I think two factors play in.
Cigarettes are brutal. They taste like shit and the aftertaste stays. The inhaling fixes the taste not only to your mouth but all the way down through the throat and into the lungs. When you cough, you'll taste it.
And the quick, hard nic-kick alters the way your body reacts to nicotine so you don't get the same pleasure from the slow intake from a pipe.
That's how I experience it and yes, I smoke cigarettes sometimes anyway. Especially if I'm at a party or in a bar where pipes just take to long.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
Nov 14, 2020
5,164
30,584
Hawaii
I’ve been having the odd cigarette during the day to fix the nic and have noticed a dramatic drop off in flavor when I sit down to have my pipe end of day.

Anyone else experienced this? Or is there something else at play?

Ahh ditch the bloody cigarettes, if you need a Nic Fix, get these and you’ll be buzzing on nicotine soon without putting smoke in your lungs. ;)

I have a tin of 1792, and oh boy it’s strong, and really tasty too! :)



 
Jul 26, 2021
2,413
9,784
Metro-Detroit
For me, cigarettes taste different after smoking a pipe. I smoke cigarettes for the nicotine hit (either based on craving or stress) and convenience with time and weather being factors. I find pipe smoking relaxing, but slow to calm me when stressed.

Factory cigarettes taste different than RYO and I can taste the chemicals. However, time is a factor and I no longer RYO (although I would like to for both flavor and cost).

I got tired of dropping nearly $50 every time I got $20 of gas and some smokes, so RYO was clutch for a while. With current gas prices, I may have to extend my day even more and get back into RYO.
 

Osirus

Might Stick Around
May 13, 2022
59
144
Nebraska, USA
For me, cigarettes taste different after smoking a pipe. I smoke cigarettes for the nicotine hit (either based on craving or stress) and convenience with time and weather being factors. I find pipe smoking relaxing, but slow to calm me when stressed.

Factory cigarettes taste different than RYO and I can taste the chemicals. However, time is a factor and I no longer RYO (although I would like to for both flavor and cost).

I got tired of dropping nearly $50 every time I got $20 of gas and some smokes, so RYO was clutch for a while. With current gas prices, I may have to extend my day even more and get back into RYO.
The pipe hasn't been fulfilling my nic addicition like I hoped... ordered a few "strong" blends as I'd rather drop the cigs.

I switched to RYO a few months back. had a few spare packs of "store bought" cigs that I used when I was out of RYO, definitely had more chemical taste, didn't buy any since. RYO is definitely the way to go if you can find the time every week or so to roll up enough.

Cigs in general are known to "blunt" your tastebuds, supposedly one of the benefits of quitting is increased food flavor (and pipe flavor I would assume as well).
 

chopper

Lifer
Aug 24, 2019
1,480
3,324
Tailor-made cigarettes have 300-600 added chemicals. Yuck.

Best thing I've ever done regarding my smoking was to ditch the lung busters for the pipe.
Never thought I'd ever kick the addiction. [Not had a ciggie in over 12 years and have zero desire to have one]
Now I only smoke mild blends with mild nicotine [because I still inhale every so many puffs]

For me a puff on my pipe must be satisfying me at a psychological level.
Even when I've only got time for a quick 5-minute puff, it 'scratches the itch'.
 

Osirus

Might Stick Around
May 13, 2022
59
144
Nebraska, USA
Tailor-made cigarettes have 300-600 added chemicals. Yuck.

Best thing I've ever done regarding my smoking was to ditch the lung busters for the pipe.
Never thought I'd ever kick the addiction. [Not had a ciggie in over 12 years and have zero desire to have one]
Now I only smoke mild blends with mild nicotine [because I still inhale every so many puffs]

For me a puff on my pipe must be satisfying me at a psychological level.
Even when I've only got time for a quick 5-minute puff, it 'scratches the itch'.
That is reassuring! I am hoping to do the same. At least it's a transition to being smoke free, but I could deal with just being a pipe smoker.

The "occasional" cigarette just doesn't work for me... I either smoke cigs all day or not at all. When this last pound of cigarette tobacco runs out, I'm going to put some BCA in the remaining tubes for if I'm out about (no inhaling) and "make the switch". I've been prepping for this by amassing several pipes and a decent amount of different tobaccos so there's no excuse. Hopefully it's not "too late" for me, 2 of my uncles died from cigarettes and I'm built a lot like they were...
 

chopper

Lifer
Aug 24, 2019
1,480
3,324
That is reassuring! I am hoping to do the same. At least it's a transition to being smoke free, but I could deal with just being a pipe smoker.

The "occasional" cigarette just doesn't work for me... I either smoke cigs all day or not at all. When this last pound of cigarette tobacco runs out, I'm going to put some BCA in the remaining tubes for if I'm out about (no inhaling) and "make the switch". I've been prepping for this by amassing several pipes and a decent amount of different tobaccos so there's no excuse. Hopefully it's not "too late" for me, 2 of my uncles died from cigarettes and I'm built a lot like they were...
It's never too late!
Ever since I started smoking I've used it to handle stress and depression.
So it would not matter how long I had abstained during a quit attempt, whether it was six days or six months, whenever I was stressed or the black cloud descended, I'd grab a smoke because at that point I simply didn't care.
All it took was one stinking cigarette to fall off the wagon.

Those of us who are emotional smokers have a much harder time trying to quit.
It's the ritual of hand to mouth and the inhaling that I suspect becomes hard-wired into ones brain.
It's that hard-wiring that makes quit attempts torturous for many. [Even after six months abstinence I still suffered cravings]

It's probably why I was able to switch to a pipe without looking back.
Memories a funny thing; although I say that it became easy after a week it was probably longer before I was comfortable but that's not really the point.
What's most important was that a pipe enabled me to get off the bloody cigarettes once and for all. That's a massive win for me.

Quit attempts were a torturous nightmare because it was all I thought about.
A pipe worked because a puff on some tasty pipe tobacco was better than nothing at all.

To successfully transition to a pipe, one must treat it like a quit attempt.
I was determined not to fail because I saw a pipe as a compromise. Knowing that I'd come down on myself like a ton of bricks if I even dared think about a cig . . . . . I know how I think.
To avoid calling myself a 'weak snivelling nancy boy', I simply did not go there and was grateful that I allowed myself to smoke a pipe.
A cigarette simply was not an option.

Although initially my intention was to use the pipe as a transition to quitting altogether, once I was adjusted to the pipe, I was surprised at how different my habits had become and my health improved markedly [No more smokers cough for one thing]
No more cravings. The urgency to have a smoke "Now!" simply disappeared.

My only motivation to quit was because I've lived with a terminal disease for over 22 years. Doctors gave me "3 years max".
Cigarettes exacerbated my condition. Pipe tobacco does not.
Eventually I decided that lifes too short to deny myself of one of my few remaining pleasures in life so I saw no reason to quit the pipe.

My addiction was so chronic that my specialist sent me to a cessation 'expert' [A useless tool whose idea of help was to ridicule and berate. That didn't turn out so good :LOL: ]
I'm sharing my experience so that others can see that if someone like me, who kept failing miserably trying to ditch the cigarettes, can succeed by switching to a pipe, then anyone can.

You can do this. All that's needed is a determination to succeed.
Good luck.
 

Osirus

Might Stick Around
May 13, 2022
59
144
Nebraska, USA
It's never too late!
Ever since I started smoking I've used it to handle stress and depression.
So it would not matter how long I had abstained during a quit attempt, whether it was six days or six months, whenever I was stressed or the black cloud descended, I'd grab a smoke because at that point I simply didn't care.
All it took was one stinking cigarette to fall off the wagon.

Those of us who are emotional smokers have a much harder time trying to quit.
It's the ritual of hand to mouth and the inhaling that I suspect becomes hard-wired into ones brain.
It's that hard-wiring that makes quit attempts torturous for many. [Even after six months abstinence I still suffered cravings]

It's probably why I was able to switch to a pipe without looking back.
Memories a funny thing; although I say that it became easy after a week it was probably longer before I was comfortable but that's not really the point.
What's most important was that a pipe enabled me to get off the bloody cigarettes once and for all. That's a massive win for me.

Quit attempts were a torturous nightmare because it was all I thought about.
A pipe worked because a puff on some tasty pipe tobacco was better than nothing at all.

To successfully transition to a pipe, one must treat it like a quit attempt.
I was determined not to fail because I saw a pipe as a compromise. Knowing that I'd come down on myself like a ton of bricks if I even dared think about a cig . . . . . I know how I think.
To avoid calling myself a 'weak snivelling nancy boy', I simply did not go there and was grateful that I allowed myself to smoke a pipe.
A cigarette simply was not an option.

Although initially my intention was to use the pipe as a transition to quitting altogether, once I was adjusted to the pipe, I was surprised at how different my habits had become and my health improved markedly [No more smokers cough for one thing]
No more cravings. The urgency to have a smoke "Now!" simply disappeared.

My only motivation to quit was because I've lived with a terminal disease for over 22 years. Doctors gave me "3 years max".
Cigarettes exacerbated my condition. Pipe tobacco does not.
Eventually I decided that lifes too short to deny myself of one of my few remaining pleasures in life so I saw no reason to quit the pipe.

My addiction was so chronic that my specialist sent me to a cessation 'expert' [A useless tool whose idea of help was to ridicule and berate. That didn't turn out so good :LOL: ]
I'm sharing my experience so that others can see that if someone like me, who kept failing miserably trying to ditch the cigarettes, can succeed by switching to a pipe, then anyone can.

You can do this. All that's needed is a determination to succeed.
Good luck.
Very well said. I'm in the same boat, been a rough few years (I'm sure it has for everyone) so my motivation to "quit and extend my life" was pretty low.

I've spent the last 1.5 years quitting alcohol, a problem that was probably immediately worse than cigarettes. Now that I feel pretty confident with sobriety from alcohol, I have turned my focus to the cigs. It's been on my "to do" list for over a decade...

I plan to compromise with myself and smoke as much pipe as I want in the beginning if I can do zero cigs. My morning smoker's cough is getting annoying. My "hard" goal is to stop the cigs by 40, which gives me about a year.

The craziness in the world and on the news doesn't help at all, it just makes me say "ah we're all in trouble no reason to quit" but that's just another excuse in reality. And I totally agree with the sentiment about "life is too short to avoid things you enjoy".

There was a "legend" about a woman who wanted to preserve her ivory soft wrinkle-free skin so she rarely went outside... well in older age her skin was still in great shape, but she regretted all of the things she missed to achieve this.
 

chopper

Lifer
Aug 24, 2019
1,480
3,324
Very well said. I'm in the same boat, been a rough few years (I'm sure it has for everyone) so my motivation to "quit and extend my life" was pretty low.

I've spent the last 1.5 years quitting alcohol, a problem that was probably immediately worse than cigarettes. Now that I feel pretty confident with sobriety from alcohol, I have turned my focus to the cigs. It's been on my "to do" list for over a decade...

I plan to compromise with myself and smoke as much pipe as I want in the beginning if I can do zero cigs. My morning smoker's cough is getting annoying. My "hard" goal is to stop the cigs by 40, which gives me about a year.

The craziness in the world and on the news doesn't help at all, it just makes me say "ah we're all in trouble no reason to quit" but that's just another excuse in reality. And I totally agree with the sentiment about "life is too short to avoid things you enjoy".

There was a "legend" about a woman who wanted to preserve her ivory soft wrinkle-free skin so she rarely went outside... well in older age her skin was still in great shape, but she regretted all of the things she missed to achieve this.
My duodenal ulcers eventually called time out on my drinking.
The most annoying thing was after years of binge drinking I'd finally learnt to drink in moderation.
Oh well, at least I can enjoy a beer or two with a meal and I have my weed puffy

No I don't see "smoking as much pipe as I want" as a "compromise".
Not at all because the goal is to ditch the cigarettes entirely.
Whatever it takes.
Once you've successfully switched exclusively to pipes, you'll find that the urge to smoke lessens over time and should sort itself out.

One thing I don't really understand is how much nicotine was involved with my chronic addiction.
Cigarettes have anywhere between 300-600 added chemicals, some of which I'm convinced are more addictive than the nicotine.

It leads me to suspect that the ritual of smoking itself is what is a large aspect regarding the therapeutic aspect in my situation.
Once I found online tobacconists after a few years of smoking a couple of blends with mild to medium Vit N, I only chose blends with mild nicotine.
Sometimes I find myself just holding an unlit pipe and drawing on it without the urge to light up.
So I guess a pipe in my hand is a bit like worry beads for others. Or an adult pacifier :LOL:

However, we are all different.
If you find that you need a nicotine hit, I'd recommend that you buy a pipe with a very small bowl and a strong blend that would satisfy that urge after a few puffs.
Again, over time you can then think about smoking milder blends.
Do whatever it takes to get off the cigarettes entirely because once you've achieved that you'll find that it will get much easier from that point on where your desire to smoke lessens without conscious effort.