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captaincalabash

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 25, 2016
152
319
Texas
A lot of the $16 a pound RYO is made with homogenized (reconstituted) tobacco.
Scraps, veins, and stems are made into a pulp, then made into sheets of paper.
Then its shredded to look like tobacco leaf.
Some of these RYO tobaccos are mixed with real leaf, some are 100% reconstituted tobacco.
I personally dont want the unknown binding agents in my tobacco. But yo each their own.
There is a native owned cigarette factory near us. They use more than 75% reconstituted in their dozen or more bags of RYO "pipe tobacco" brands. If you look closely, you can tell its shredded paper.
They get pallets of this reconstituted tobacco made who knows where in their factory. A friend of ours is a forklift operator there. He personally unloads it.
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
Somewhere around here I have a package of Golden Harvest (little) filtered cigars that sell for under $15 a carton all taxes paid.

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How the heck can Fred Rouse do that?

First, Fred is the eighth generation of tobacco warehousemen in Kinston North Carolina and he’s a whole bunch good, at buying and selling tobacco products, yes he surely is.

Fred’s ancestors there might have sold tobacco to the Redcoats in 1780 and the Yankees in 1865.:)

Fred pays $2 a pound for raw leaf and ages it in one of his warehouses until it’s good to smoke.

Fred will put a shade over three pounds per thousand cigars in his machines. At 6.10 per thousand Fred has about $1.25 worth of tobacco per carton in his cigars. Fred buys the tubes from them there Europeans ready made for maybe another $1.75 a carton.

North Carolina is no longer an Arkansas poor state. Let’s say Fred pays his help and for overhead a dollar a carton. He’s up to $4 his cost per carton.

Being a good capitalist Fred doubles his money, sells those little cigars to retailers for $8 a carton.

If they were labeled cigarretes the federal tax would be $8 plus whatever the state taxes were.

But since they are large cigars (take that tax collectors) the taxes are $4, one half the wholesale price) plus in Missouri an additional 40 cents as any other product than cigarretes. $12.40 cost to the shop.

The shop marks them up a dollar or two and out the door they go.

Fred’s cigars are tightly packed, hard to draw, and there’s a whiff of cigarish taste from the wrappers.

And they cost about twice as much than if you took Fred’s Buoy Gold, aged it six more months at home, then stuffed Fred’s imported tubes with a Chinese tax beating machine that will churn out $7.50 taxes paid cigarettes at two pounds or so per thousand all day long.
 
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NookersTheCat

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 10, 2020
772
3,766
NEPA
My favorites were the Dean's filtered cigars. They had an awesome cherry flavor. Unfortunately I didn't stock that deep and they seemed to stop production for a year or so and now are part of a different brand's portfolio and they only sell half the original flavors.

Used to be owned by Dean Rouse. Also the brand owner of Farmer's Gold RYO/Pipe baccy. I wonder if he was a relative. Too bad he sold out. Private Equity is going to destroy us as a species...


 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
6,958
23,522
Humansville Missouri
My favorites were the Dean's filtered cigars. They had an awesome cherry flavor. Unfortunately I didn't stock that deep and they seemed to stop production for a year or so and now are part of a different brand's portfolio and they only sell half the original flavors.

Used to be owned by Dean Rouse. Also the brand owner of Farmer's Gold RYO/Pipe baccy. I wonder if he was a relative. Too bad he sold out. Private Equity is going to destroy us as a species...



For the four decades I owned and operated my office I’d go back to the supply shelves with every new assistant.

I’d say my internship in law school was with a wonderful man who had his assistants inventory and account for every pen, every paper clip, every folder, and every ream of paper. I asked why and he said his assistants would be tempted to steal them.

Here’s my plan—-help your self.

But would you please make sure everything that can have my name on it, has it?

And please don’t ever let me run out of ammunition.:)



The descendants of the Rosy Cross are mighty hard to kill, you know?.:)
 
Jan 28, 2018
15,783
197,125
68
Sarasota, FL
Sometimes its nice to be the guy in room smoking down a bowl of prince albert or half and half, and enjoying it.

then being a pretentious waffle smoking a bowl taken from a 30$ tin.. who doesnt enjoy it. but still smokes it because "its expensive" or "the forums say its real wonderful"
There's nothing pretentious about smoking what you like. I paid less than $15 per tin for the vast majority of tobacco I smoke. You have to be a special kind of stupid to take my post and twist it to what you posted.