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JOHN72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2020
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I have an initial response, from Mac Baren, I got the mail a few hours ago. He has asked me for the seal numbers of the pouches, to give me a more comprehensive answer, as he wants to know the exact age of the tobacco. I sent him photos of the condition of the tobacco.

Response Initial conclusion: It sounds like precipitation of vinegar which is a flavour in St. Bruno. It comes over time and can also be provoked in hign temperature.

It poses no health risk to smoke it.
 

simong

Lifer
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I have an initial response, from Mac Baren, I got the mail a few hours ago. He has asked me for the seal numbers of the pouches, to give me a more comprehensive answer, as he wants to know the exact age of the tobacco. I sent him photos of the condition of the tobacco.

Response Initial conclusion: It sounds like precipitation of vinegar which is a flavour in St. Bruno. It comes over time and can also be provoked in hign temperature.

It poses no health risk to smoke it.
Nice of Mac Barens to respond so quickly, good work John!👍
Might be worth asking them what type of vinegar they use? I don't expect they'd tell you but worth a try all the same. That way, if you do feel like 'sprucing up' the flavour yourself, at least you'd know which vinegar to get.
 

simong

Lifer
Oct 13, 2015
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When I bought a test tin of St Bruno, I enjoyed it and I felt it would age very well. I bought 100 tins back in April 2016 and have no idea where they are. I am going to get my son to dig out a tin so I can try it and see what 6 years has done for it. I will report back if I can remember to find that stash.
You should be alright, the flake doesn't seem to lose much over time. The flake doesn't 'sweat out' the vinegar like the RR does in the pouches. At least, that's been the case with my tins.
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JOHN72

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You should be alright, the flake doesn't seem to lose much over time. The flake doesn't 'sweat out' the vinegar like the RR does in the pouches. At least, that's been the case with my tins.
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It looks fantastic. Here in Spain, we can not buy it in tins, only sold in bags. I do not know if in bags, it is weaker at the time of temperature changes. If it is true that in the winter, there was not that white color in the strands, perhaps the heat and high humidity, has been the cause of the change.
 

tmcg81

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I haven't been smoking St Bruno that long but the first pouch of the RR that I bought was from 2018, and I loved it, and then ordered more and my subsequent pouches have been slightly lackluster. I've just been buying tins of Flake in the meantime and have had no issues with them.
 
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JOHN72

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My opinion based on the response. Changes over time. high temperatures, irregular temperature, moisture, aging, Something that happens and will happen with other tobaccos, of other brands.I have noticed changes in other tobaccos of another well-known brand, with only three years of aging, loss of strength, and consequently, loss of aroma. That is, natural changes of tobacco and as I said before, factors that develop, once you handle your tobacco at home. My cellar does not have a constant temperature, nor with an adequate humidity level. Simply that is my opinion based on the response of this reputable and excellent brand. Tobacco has a correct aroma. And we already know, that a smoke, is not the same as the smoked tomorrow, there are many factors.Handling and smoking in very hot months or in very cold months. That said, thank Mac Baren for his excellent help. I will continue to buy and store this excellent tobacco, I have no doubt. I hope you find it very helpful guys.
 
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JOHN72

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I am doing another test. Smoking St. Bruno in MM General pipe, the tobacco is with a point of humidity, the pipe has no premix, no ghosting, it is very dry and clean. I have to say that smoking is incredibly satisfying. I smoke as usual, leisurely, calm and enjoying, as this sauced, tends to heat the bowl, or at least, that's my feeling. I remember smoking it previously, this summer, I dried out the tobacco too much. Now I will smoke it with a point of humidity and continue to explore sensations. The aroma in the room is fantastic, unmistakable aroma of San Bruno.
 
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hugodrax

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It's a desert island smoke for me, sir. There's something uniquely satisfying about it and each stage of humidity level brings its own charms.
 
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