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yaddy306

Lifer
Aug 7, 2013
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Regina, Canada
I know this one as a fact, the answer is NO. As a debate coach, the district makes us go to copyright training every year. No money has to be made for it to be a violation. The laws are so that every poem used in class must come from a textbook in which each child is issued a copy. Displaying it on the board by a projector is also prohibited. A teacher or coach copying a poem and distributing it is grounds for dismissal.
Like I said, I'm no copyright lawyer. I just know what I read on the internet:
Luckily, fair use specifically allows for multiple classroom copies of work.
The following guidelines come from House Report 94-1476, clarifying the minimum standards of educational fair use.
Single Copies: For research or preparation for a class, a teacher can copy book chapters, magazine and newspaper articles, short stories and poems, diagrams, and pictures.

Multiple Copies: A teacher can make multiple copies (one per pupil in a course) of something for classroom use or discussion, as long as: poems are less than 250 words and two pages, prose is less than 2,500 words or an excerpt, and only one diagram/picture is copied from a single work.
https://www.brighthubeducation.com/teaching-methods-tips/6623-understanding-copyright-law-and-fair-use-for-teachers/

 
Single Copies: For research or preparation for a class, a teacher can copy book chapters, magazine and newspaper articles, short stories and poems, diagrams, and pictures.

Multiple Copies: A teacher can make multiple copies (one per pupil in a course) of something for classroom use or discussion, as long as: poems are less than 250 words and two pages, prose is less than 2,500 words or an excerpt, and only one diagram/picture is copied from a single work.

That is correct, one single copy can be made, but not displayed publicly. Basically, you could pass around one page and let them all read it, ha ha, one at a time. And, unless you are studying haikus, our administrators tell us these are useless. Stay inside the textbook.

 

yaddy306

Lifer
Aug 7, 2013
1,372
505
Regina, Canada
Single Copies: For research or preparation for a class, a teacher can copy book chapters, magazine and newspaper articles, short stories and poems, diagrams, and pictures.

Multiple Copies: A teacher can make multiple copies (one per pupil in a course) of something for classroom use or discussion, as long as: poems are less than 250 words and two pages, prose is less than 2,500 words or an excerpt, and only one diagram/picture is copied from a single work.

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warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,349
18,534
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
The copyright owner decides what is good for the brand, not the crook nor, the bystander with no dog in the fight. Most so-called "forward thinking" companies defend their product, marque and other properties, tenaciously. The owner, not the consumer makes such determination. One can mitigate the behavior, even excuse it with all sorts of gyrations but, the act is still criminal. For me such an act is inexcusable. For others? Well, they can obfuscate, rationalize, or simply turn a blind eye.
And, this is getting circular and ... if truth be told, a bit boring. Still enjoyable but, circular causes a loss of interest. So, someone find another direction please.

 

crashthegrey

Lifer
Dec 18, 2015
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3,960
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Cobleskill, NY
www.greywoodie.com
People are also not aware that there is a difference between copyright and trademark, and SToP likely has a combination of these types of protection. And the vast majority of what people have referenced refer to copyright, not trademark. So most of this conversation does not even apply. Also, you guys should see the legal name of SToP, because it made me laugh out loud.

 

ashdigger

Lifer
Jul 30, 2016
11,391
70,250
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Vegas Baby!!!
So, someone find another direction please.
If I'm forced to switch my avatar, this will be the new, more accurate rendition.
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I wonder if they will sue me, who ever "they" are.

 

acidpox

Can't Leave
Nov 18, 2018
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Let's no forget about public domain, I'm not speaking for the label use but some of the examples being used I fell with fall into public domain.
Works that automatically enter the public domain upon creation, because they are not copyrightable:

Titles, names, short phrases and slogans, familiar symbols, numbers

Ideas and facts (e.g., the date of the Gettysburg Address)

Processes and systems

Government works and documents

Works that have been assigned to the public domain by their creators

Works that have entered the public domain because the copyright on them has expired
(Note: Use of some works, such as ideas and symbols, may be restricted by other laws, such as patent, trademark, or trade secret.)

What works have expired into the public domain?2
All works published in the U.S. before 1923

All works published with a copyright notice from 1923 through 1963 without copyright renewal

All works published without a copyright notice from 1923 through 1977

All works published without a copyright notice from 1978 through March 1, 1989, and without subsequent registration within 5 years
Congress has passed a series of laws extending the term of copyright. Currently, the default term is life of the author plus 70 years. That means that most of the copyrighted works created from the late 1970s to the present may not become public domain during your lifetime.
In general, works published after 1977 will not fall into the public domain until 70 years after the death of author, or, for corporate works, anonymous works, or works for hire, 95 years from the date of publication or 120 years from the date of creation, whichever expires first.

 

unadoptedlamp

Part of the Furniture Now
Mar 19, 2014
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1,370
Warren- You're blowin' my mind. Personally, I have very much enjoyed reading what you have to say about all of this. Your perspective is very interesting and absolutely worth reading about. I am very serious. Don't get so hard on yourself... You are anything but boring.
I feel like we're on the edge of some real fire and brimstone stuff here. Some ultimate truths and infallible laws laid down bare for all to know and abide by. We are so. damn. close.
Keep going, it might be worth it!

 

ron123

Part of the Furniture Now
Jan 28, 2015
545
993
Park Ridge, IL
As a kid, I used to doodle the Rolling Stones lip/mouth logo in notebooks and stuff. I was unaware that I was doing wrong, but ignorance of the law is no excuse. I'm not really sure how to reach Keith, Mick and the boys, so if one of this board's good Samaritans would please turn me in, I'd appreciate it...my conscience is tearing me up right now.

 

lazar

Can't Leave
May 5, 2015
455
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You SToP guys might want to think about suing google images, too. https://www.google.com/search?q=bengal+slices&client=firefox-b-1-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwifxYKGhKbgAhWM3oMKHTy0AGcQ_AUIDygC&biw=1366&bih=694. And TR, and PipesMag, and P&C, and all the retailers who are complicit in disseminating images of your products, because people can easily print them out and glue them to their mason jars without your permission. It's a slippery slope and there are no gray areas.

 
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