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3rdguy

Lifer
Aug 29, 2017
3,472
7,299
Iowa
I do like the embossing on the Hearth & Home line.
Would be great to see a tinned date on them :puffy:

 

recluse

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 11, 2011
147
8
This is great. I'm going to start using these instead. Thank you for sharing this.

 

condorlover1

Lifer
Dec 22, 2013
8,553
30,380
New York
The infraction has been noted. Interestingly the owner of the website hides behind an anonymous service with a forwarding address in Canada. If he or she had approached us first and asked for permission we might have been more than happy to work with them. I would strongly recommend that the sites owner reaches out to us at SToP by Monday to discuss these matters.

 

wolflarsen

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 29, 2018
861
2,483
What a mess this has become. I'm not sure now if I regret starting this thread or not. I naïvely thought that posting it would help some other tobacco enthusiasts on the forum dress up their cellars and certainly didn't mean to start some kind of international legal drama. I still have a hard time wrapping my mind around how these stickers constitute a legitimate threat to anything whatsoever but I have no affiliation with the web site or the companies that own the images so it's not my battle to fight. I hope the situation is quickly and easily resolved and think that the idea of making labels available for folks to use on their jars, tins, truck bumpers, tackleboxes, etc. is a great one. It would be fantastic to see some come available through legal means when this is all over and done with. :puffy:

 

condorlover1

Lifer
Dec 22, 2013
8,553
30,380
New York
I couldn't agree with you more Wolflarsen. Anyone who knows the Standard Tobacco team know us to be the most reasonable guys around. All we ask for is a 'heads up' and the opportunity for input from our partners at STG and then some form of licensing arrangement. Trade marks are not cheap and having someone produce them willy nilly dilutes the value of our property. Unless we hear from the miscreant by Monday it will become a legal issue and I suspect the purveyor of these images might have a truck load of issues with just about every manufacturer out there. Sometimes a polite letter to the owner would save a lot of headaches.

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,343
Carmel Valley, CA
And, if SToP is involved, we can be sure of high quality artwork (images/photos) of their labels instead of the crap on that site. (Photo quality-wise crap is what I mean.)

 

warren

Lifer
Sep 13, 2013
12,349
18,534
Foothills of the Chugach Range, AK
Good hunting SToP guys!
I still cannot accept the fuzzy logic/ethics (or, lack thereof) of those who see no harm in stealing (misappropriating is such a weak word) the property of others. No matter how it's used, profit or not, good intentions or not, the artwork is simply not theirs to use. Period!!! There is no argument that can be offered to make such behavior legitament.

 

recluse

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 11, 2011
147
8
And, if SToP is involved, we can be sure of high quality artwork (images/photos) of their labels instead of the crap on that site. (Photo quality-wise crap is what I mean.)
I'd prefer to pay for high quality stickers like this. I know for fact others would as well.
I suspect, however, the site will get shut down and that won't happen. Please prove me wrong.

 

recluse

Starting to Get Obsessed
Sep 11, 2011
147
8
Recluse, please clarify. You’d prefer to pay for the stolen, low quality copies on cellarlabels.com?
No, I'd prefer to pay for high quality stickers from the manufacturers.
In other words, I'd like to pay for stickers of pipe tobacco labels, like those on the tins, from the owners who make them.
Sorry for the confusion.

 

beefeater33

Lifer
Apr 14, 2014
4,245
6,746
Central Ohio
I still cannot accept the fuzzy logic/ethics (or, lack thereof) of those who see no harm in stealing (misappropriating is such a weak word) the property of others. No matter how it's used, profit or not, good intentions or not, the artwork is simply not theirs to use. Period!!! There is no argument that can be offered to make such behavior legitament.

That seems a bit extreme, Warren......... Are you saying that if i BUY a tin of Dunhill Aperitif, then nail the tin lid to my shed wall for decoration, I'm stealing? That's Nuts. PERIOD!

 

pipehunter

Starting to Get Obsessed
Dec 20, 2016
212
5
I still cannot accept the fuzzy logic/ethics (or, lack thereof) of those who see no harm in stealing (misappropriating is such a weak word) the property of others. No matter how it's used, profit or not, good intentions or not, the artwork is simply not theirs to use. Period!!! There is no argument that can be offered to make such behavior legitament.
Agreed. No argument. i am so pissed at every museum in the world that exhibits work by artists that never agreed to have that specific work publicly viewed. There is in this universe no argument to legitamently allow that.

 
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