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FLDRD

Lifer
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people say that but use that redflag for bs term "toxins", but every serious look at it says it does the same thing water does. And the ancient texts about the practice often label it as a substitute fos water based concoctions. But if it works for you the only harm is fattening others wallets.
Sorry but water and oil are not the same thing.
They can both have similar benefits, such as "rinsing" in general, the particulate matter from the oral cavity, but they in no way, shape or form "do the same thing".
Fat is a necessary constituent of the human diet, and some people don't mind using healthy oils to coat their oral cavity and then swallow it to gain a few more molecules of said oil.
And I see no reference to "toxins" here at all; so don't know what that is about.
 

Kooky

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And the "moisture level" of the smoker is even more important.
Many individuals are fairly dehydrated.
Especially those that drink dr. pepper and similar.
Lucky for me all I drink is water, beer, and liquor, like nature intended.

Slightly kidding. I see someone mentioned tulsi/holy basil. I just last night made my grandma a tea with holy basil, lemongrass, and spearmint that I grew. I don't eat honey but I added honey and ginger (which I'm also growing) and we have a honeybee colony that took place out back. I'm hoping they leave me some behind because I will absolutely eat it.

I have all sorts of traditional medicinal herbs going out back, especially American ones lost from the popular mind like marshmallow and yarrow.

Coconut oil is my favorite. "Oil pulling" is a popular traditional method to reduce tartar/plaque buildups and I do believe it works to some extent. I did it when I started smoking and sort of fell away but will be doing it again soon, I got a lot of tobacco recently. There are YouTube videos documenting lengthy journeys (hundreds of days) of oil pulling and the before and after results. Only dentists will tell you to stop doing it because you fund their paychecks if you have worse teeth.

It's 100% a hassle though unless there's some random idle time you don't need your mouth for 20 minutes.

Edit: I see the tea link you listed, almost exactly what I made from my garden, lol. I am a bit of a health freak, and while tobacco is not good for you (make sure you do cardio or lift weights so you work the most important thing! your heart) I believe it's a bit overstated like when the movie "Reefer Madness" came out. Just another thing for people to try and control/profit from said control.
 
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FLDRD

Lifer
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Lucky for me all I drink is water, beer, and liquor, like nature intended.

Slightly kidding. I see someone mentioned tulsi/holy basil. I just last night made my grandma a tea with holy basil, lemongrass, and spearmint that I grew. I don't eat honey but I added honey and ginger (which I'm also growing) and we have a honeybee colony that took place out back. I'm hoping they leave me some behind because I will absolutely eat it.

I have all sorts of traditional medicinal herbs going out back, especially American ones lost from the popular mind like marshmallow and yarrow.

Coconut oil is my favorite. "Oil pulling" is a popular traditional method to reduce tartar/plaque buildups and I do believe it works to some extent. I did it when I started smoking and sort of fell away but will be doing it again soon, I got a lot of tobacco recently. There are YouTube videos documenting lengthy journeys (hundreds of days) of oil pulling and the before and after results. Only dentists will tell you to stop doing it because you fund their paychecks if you have worse teeth.

It's 100% a hassle though unless there's some random idle time you don't need your mouth for 20 minutes.

Edit: I see the tea link you listed, almost exactly what I made from my garden, lol. I am a bit of a health freak, and while tobacco is not good for you (make sure you do cardio or lift weights so you work the most important thing! your heart) I believe it's a bit overstated like when the movie "Reefer Madness" came out. Just another thing for people to try and control/profit from said control.
Someone else provided the tea link; it just prompted me to say that I like it too, and I grow my own.

Also mint, spearmint, fennel, oregano, rosemary, etc.

And a few things to actually eat, as well. :LOL:
 
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Kooky

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If I had more space I would grow a food forest, easily. I love it. My first tobacco experiment t was a failure, you can't start them in shade in Florida, the sun is too harsh to transplant. So I started them in direct sunlight this time and they're all growing pretty well. Got about 5-6 different varieties.

Sorry, getting off topic.
 
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PipeIT

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My dental hygienist says I have the cleanest teeth if all her patients, and my dentist says my teeth are in excellent condition.

There's a reason I don't floss often (though I do floss).

You don't know my health and I'll thank you to stop trying to be my doctor and stop making presumptions about me, my diet, and my health now. It's kind of rude and starting to get on my nerves. Plus, nobody likes unsolicited advice and nobody asked about health, just palate cleansing.

Also, you're supposed to wait an hour after eating before brushing because the acids in food can soften your enamel, so immediate brushing can actually wear out your enamel faster. Believe it or not, you can brush too much. I have a specific dental routine that works for me. There's also varying recommendations as to how often to brush.

Wooo relax buddy, no one is trying to be anything, or assuming, or being a doctor, etc., etc.

I’m simply chatting and talking is all, and you’re blowing it way out of context.

I’m not trying to toot my own horn, I’m certainly not the rich and famous pipe smoker around here, nor am I Jim, but I’ve been around these parts, daily, almost 2 years, and you’ve been here only a month, and start acting this way, seriously not cool at all.

Many know me here, I’m as laid back and chill as they come.

What I was trying to do, was simply be a nice guy and share and help my fellow pipe smoker, instead of getting my head chewed off.

Relax new guy, pull up a chair, drop the attitude.

Aloha ?

P.S. This isn’t the way to start out in a new place. This is not your typical, run of the mill online forums, typical online BS. This is a very tight knit community, and I hope many of the much older members consider me a regular around here. :)

Back me up someone! LOL ?

@JimInks @ashdigger @Ahi Ka @hoosierpipeguy
 
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Sorry but water and oil are not the same thing.
They can both have similar benefits, such as "rinsing" in general, the particulate matter from the oral cavity, but they in no way, shape or form "do the same thing".
Fat is a necessary constituent of the human diet, and some people don't mind using healthy oils to coat their oral cavity and then swallow it to gain a few more molecules of said oil.
And I see no reference to "toxins" here at all; so don't know what that is about.
Now ingesting oils like coconut oil is great and very healthy. There are lots of people that make wild claims about using it as an oral rinse the main one is that it pulls toxins from your blood. And that it will do miricals in your mouth. I guess those claims annoy me in part because they can obscure legit but less dazzling benefits. Cyrotreatments are a great example of that, anything that can help treat inflamation is great. However the things people say it can do might chase away some more level headed person. Or short version sorry one of my pet peeves got triggered. :)
 
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Kooky

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Wooo relax buddy, no one is trying to be anything, or assuming, or being a doctor, etc., etc.

I’m simply chatting and talking is all, and you’re blowing it way out of context.

I’m not trying to toot my own horn, I’m certainly not the rich and famous pipe smoker around here, nor am I Jim, but I’ve been around these parts, daily, almost 2 years, and you’ve been here only a month, and start acting this way, seriously not cool at all.

Many know me here, I’m as laid back and chill as they come.

What I was trying to do, was simply be a nice guy and share and help my fellow pipe smoker, instead of getting my head chewed off.

Relax new guy, pull up a chair, drop the attitude.

Aloha ?

P.S. This isn’t the way to start out in a new place. This is not your typical, run of the mill online forums, typical online BS. This is a very tight knit community, and I hope many of the much older members consider me a regular around here. :)

Back me up someone! LOL ?

@JimInks @ashdigger @Ahi Ka @hoosierpipeguy

I got you bro. They said something along the lines of “you don’t know me” and also “nobody likes x”.

Mild hypocrisy. How can they speak for everyone after saying not to? The “rude” comment seems millennial, as a millennial myself. (Will I be massacred for this comment? I can hear the angry keyboard clicks approaching)

Must’ve been having a rough day. We’ve all been there where the internet bothers us easily, usually under entitled the assumption that someone read the book of our life but wasn’t fully paying attention, and our reality is in fact so far superior than the commentary it’s offensive beyond measure, when we’re all pretty much strangers bantering.

Cheers.
 

PipeIT

Lifer
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I got you bro. They said something along the lines of “you don’t know me” and also “nobody likes x”.

Mild hypocrisy. How can they speak for everyone after saying not to? The “rude” comment seems millennial, as a millennial myself.

Must’ve been having a rough day. We’ve all been there where the internet bothers us easily, usually under entitled the assumption that someone read the book of their life but wasn’t fully paying attention, when in fact we’re all pretty much strangers.

cheers.

Well, before anyone jumps, just simply take the time to see where you’re at, and he would of realized, sooner or later, this is tight knit community as I mentioned.

People don’t give each other crap around here, just friendly banter. LOL ?

Also, a lot of professional carvers, blenders and businesses are members and sponsors here.

There’s a lot of BS out there in Cyber Space, my background is in IT. I’m a big pc geek, as big as they come, 7 days a week behind the keyboard, online for many years, this is my world, and all it takes is a little time as I said, to look around, to realize the place your in.

Anyhow, all is good, and the pipe world is great, so let’s all keep being happy and continue the fun! :)

Aloha! ?

P.S. If my girlfriend doesn’t make you smile, I don’t know what will! LOL ?

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Franco Pipenbeans

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Great! Now I need to find out what Oil Pulling is!

YouTube: here I come!!

edit - I guess I’m going to have to add coconut oil to my shopping basket now, in equal ratios to my apple cider vinegar intake.
Does it really work though? Honestly?
 
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Absolutely not, just the smell of milk makes me want to puke. No way could I ever put that in my mouth. Cheese in the same boat. The most disgusting stuff I ever smelled or tasted in my life is cheese, milk and related products... and I worked for a time as a mortician (never tasted a dead body, but would rather smell a 5 gallon bucket of viscera soaking in cavity fluid than to even smell milk, let alone put it in my mouth).

You've never had a cheeseburger? Damn.. That's kind of crazy to me LOL.

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But more on topic, does it sound like to anyone else that OP might have some mild tongue bite? Depending on how OP likes to smoke his pipe and which part of his tongue is exposed to the direct heat certain flavors are more affected than others..
 

FLDRD

Lifer
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You've never had a cheeseburger? Damn.. That's kind of crazy to me LOL.

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But more on topic, does it sound like to anyone else that OP might have some mild tongue bite? Depending on how OP likes to smoke his pipe and which part of his tongue is exposed to the direct heat certain flavors are more affected than others..
I think the tongue bite or similar could be going on. And I've discovered from my own physiology that the personal hydration level of my body is a bigger factor than most would suspect.

A lot of individuals are less than ideally hydrated.
 
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I think the tongue bite or similar could be going on. And I've discovered from my own physiology that the personal hydration level of my body is a bigger factor than most would suspect.

A lot of individuals are less than ideally hydrated,

Yeah also OP is pairing his smoke with high pH drinks, a known exacerbater for tongue bite.
 
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