I just picked up some C&D Founding Fathers from smoking pipes.I must admit that I was disappointed. It has a solid Virginia base but there is a strong fruit casing flavor that seems very over powering. It feels misplaced to me. What I mean is that the fruit flavor is not married to the tobacco. Not a very good blend for me. Too much fruity stuff going on. I have to score C&D Founding Fathers 3 out of 10. Happy Smoking from Downeast.