Broke Shank From The Bowl... Help Me Find Good Glue!

[yaroslaw]

So I tried to return to pipes, bought few samplers of Sam Gawith tobacco, dug up my old pipe (one of two left when I stopped smoking pipes and donated all others to my friend).
It's Dr.Grabow Commodore 36 with screw-in stem, and when trying to align it - broke the shank of the bowl

It's a clean break, so gluing should leave no visual marks (it's heavy blasted), but I need to know which glue will tolerate heat and moisture. Normal PVA wood glue failed at the end of a first bowl (I suspected it, but still wanted to try as I couldn't find the other pipe, and it was the only wood glue I had at the moment).

CA (superglues) aren't heat tolerant, they fail when heated and might not like heavy moisture (and off-gassing... I don't want to smoke CA!), epoxies usually also don't like high temp, and in this case, it is very thin glue joint.

So my thoughts are either special wood glue (Titebond D4 is available in my country) or some contact cement.

Just to know, I'm really low on money now, so buying a new pipe is off the table, and I don't think I'll find pipe repairmen in my country. Besides, I have a lot of experience working with wood, so I think I can handle this with a right adhesive for the job.

It was my favorite pipe for Latakia blends, so any help appreciated!

 

[yaroslaw]

Photos of a pipe

 

[diamondback]

Ah. Wow that broke right at the stummel! I’m nowhere near being experienced enough to give advice.

That said, the pipe doctors should be along shortly with advice ?

 

[Sonorisis]

I'd recommend trying a catalyzed gel of some sort. But, for longer term success, you'll need to do something "mechanical" to hold things together. Recommend you try drilling some small holes into the break so the glue can form "fingers" that hold the two parts together. I fear just butting the two pieces back together won't hold for very long. You could also try some type of pins, but indexing them would be a nightmare. If you want to try pins, bamboo makes the best pins -- its tensile strength is greater than steel and it takes glue really well. But, indexing will take some master craftsmanship.

 

[condorlover1]

Hang about on the forum. Someone will probably send you a spare. I am afraid I have nothing I can offer you since most of my stuff is ancient. Anyone here got a spare cob for this fellow?

 

[diamondback]

Oh sure! Now how to ship into Ukraine without US alphabet agencies knocking on my door? ?

 

[condorlover1]

Just mark the package 'Missile Parts' or better yet 'Voting Machine Software' and everything will be fine!

 

[Chasing Embers]

Do you have access to this?

 

[yaroslaw]

Do you have access to this?

have not seen in a stores yet, it would be more money to order it from USA/Europe then that's pipe worth.

 

[yaroslaw]

I'd recommend trying a catalyzed gel of some sort. But, for longer term success, you'll need to do something "mechanical" to hold things together. Recommend you try drilling some small holes into the break so the glue can form "fingers" that hold the two parts together. I fear just butting the two pieces back together won't hold for very long. You could also try some type of pins, but indexing them would be a nightmare. If you want to try pins, bamboo makes the best pins -- its tensile strength is greater than steel and it takes glue really well. But, indexing will take some master craftsmanship.

Pins idea sounds nice, actually. Might actually do few pins. But what glue? I don't understand what you're referring to as "catalized gel", I might not be able to buy it cheap/in small quantity

 

[davek]

That sucks. If you can't come up with a proper adhesive, don't throw it away. If you opened the hole in the bowl and turned or whittled the stem to fit into it fairly tightly, then wood glue might work fine. Might not be pretty, and it would be shorter, but it would smoke fine.

 

[Sonorisis]

 

[scloyd]

So my thoughts are either special wood glue (Titebond D4 is available in my country) or some contact cement.

Is Titebond III Ultimate Wood Glue available near you? All of our big box hardware stores carry it. This is what I would use. If it didn't work, I'm sure I could use it on another project.


Titebond® III ultimate wood glue is the first one-part, water cleanup wood glue that is proven to be waterproof. The waterproof formula passes the ANSI/HPVA type I water-resistance specification and offers superior bond strength, longer open assembly time and lower application temperature. It is nontoxic, solvent free and cleans up with water. It provides strong initial tack, sands easily without softening and is FDA approved for indirect food contact, such as cutting boards. The ultimate in wood glues, ideal for both interior and exterior applications.

 

[yaroslaw]

Is Titebond III Ultimate Wood Glue available near you? All of our big box hardware stores carry it. This is what I would use. If it didn't work, I'm sure I could use it on another project.

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Titebond® III ultimate wood glue is the first one-part, water cleanup wood glue that is proven to be waterproof. The waterproof formula passes the ANSI/HPVA type I water-resistance specification and offers superior bond strength, longer open assembly time and lower application temperature. It is nontoxic, solvent free and cleans up with water. It provides strong initial tack, sands easily without softening and is FDA approved for indirect food contact, such as cutting boards. The ultimate in wood glues, ideal for both interior and exterior applications.

Yeah, that is exactly what I can buy (reffered to it as Titebond D4, D4 is a type of application for most water resistant joints).

 

[yaroslaw]

I'd recommend trying a catalyzed gel of some sort. But, for longer term success, you'll need to do something "mechanical" to hold things together. Recommend you try drilling some small holes into the break so the glue can form "fingers" that hold the two parts together. I fear just butting the two pieces back together won't hold for very long. You could also try some type of pins, but indexing them would be a nightmare. If you want to try pins, bamboo makes the best pins -- its tensile strength is greater than steel and it takes glue really well. But, indexing will take some master craftsmanship.

Pins done...

Now a drive to buy some Titebond, water catalized glues sold by 25kg (60ish pounds) here, a little too much for a pipe

 

[scloyd]

Looking forward to seeing the completed repair.

 

[sisyphus]

honestly, cobs until your money situation changes

 

[adui]

honestly, cobs until your money situation changes

While I too am anxious to see the completed repair, I might add a good cobb is a good pipe!

 

[kcghost]

The best thing to do is to talk to a qualified pipe repair person (like George Dibos) and him what he uses.

 

[bnichols23]

While I too am anxious to see the completed repair, I might add a good cobb is a good pipe!

You'd better run before cosmic sees that! Hehehehe