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lagavulin92

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 20, 2010
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Ideally, a new pipe breaks in effortlessly in a few smokes. I love to see how a new pipe, with her own woody note, evolves into a champ. We've come to consider the speed of the breaking in process a mark of briar quality.
When I asked my tobacconist, the old man who helped me in my beginning stages of smoking, about the difference of a Peterson and a Dunhill, he gave me a completely different judgement of the two brands. The first was less "active". It would interfere less with the smoke. While Dunhills usually mellowed the smoke and took away the edges, it would also smear the nuances and make them harder to detect. The Peterson would give a clearer picture of the tobacco.
The consensus is that a normal Peterson taken many bowls to brak in, unlike a normal Dunhill. The average entry-level Peterson therefore is not as desirable as the average-performing Dunhill. But when we break a pipe in, isn't our hope that the briar works with us, and therefore that it is "active".
While I don't possess a pipe of any of the mentioned brands, my two newest additions show similar behaviours. Ones practically broken in after the first bowl, the smoke is great, but it is extremely hard to detect the nuances that obviously reveal themselves in the other pipe. The other one, however, took 10 bowls to really break in, and I initially had a hard time smoking tobacco that was a tad moister than I usually smoke.
What, after the whole observation, makes a good quality briar? Break-in speed seems to come at the expense of clarity. It seems that every briar has a different measure of "activity". Have you had similar experiences? Do you have pipes that were very easy to break in and provide a clear, nuanced smoke, at least for a genre of blends?

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
15,147
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Chicago, IL
Wow! Thanks for posting this absolutely brilliant model for assessing the differences in briars. I'd really like to hear G.L. Pease's reaction to it.
I have noticed that as my low-to-mid grade pipes become broken-in they achieve what I guess you could call clarity, or less "(inter-)activity."
The closest thing I have to a Dunnie is a Julius Vesz dead root briar, and I have to agree that it is what you can describe as more "active" in mellowing the smoke and blurring the nuances. In fact, that would be its defining difference!
Frankly, I prefer the less active pipe.

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
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Birmingham, AL
IMHO a new pipe can be "broken in" after only a few bowls. As for the "speed" of break in... I think that the break in period should be subjective, and not so much objective. I don't make any concerted effort to break in a new pipe. I just smoke them and in time they will develop a personality all their own. You will learn what types of tobaccos are best suited to a particular pipe and what mood or activity is suited to that pipe, and "building a cake" while important to the break in, doesn't happen over night and shouldn't be rushed.

Some pipes (seemingly more and more of them these days) come with a carbon lining. This is purported to benefit the pipe smoker by facilitating the building of a cake and ease of break in. However; it has been my experience that after a while I can't remember if it came pre-carbonized or not. But, by then the pipe has developed its own personality, or individual characteristics associated with personality.

My point being (and this is just opinion), I suppose, is that while a pipe may be broken in quickly it still takes considerable time for it to develop its personality. It's then that the right pipe for your mood will be recognizable and valued. I have pipes that suit my grumpy moods, my thoughtful moods, my to hell with the world moods, those that are good to use when reading, or watching the tube, and of course the early morning coffee or postprandial pipe. As your collection grows you'll see what I mean.
For now, don't sweat the technical, and enjoy the ineffable.

 

pipetrucker

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 13, 2010
937
1
Following the white rabbit
Lawrence has already stated my own view much better than I could have done. I buy a pipe and smoke it, without concern with "break-in" or even building a cake. Those happen on their own, without any help from me.

 

lagavulin92

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 20, 2010
120
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I only care as much of the break-in process as that it requires more concentration to smoke the pipe without unnecessary relights. When a pipe keeps alight for 2 minutes at rest, I consider it broken in. Of course, it will still evolve afterwards, which is the incentive of smoking pipe for life.

 

ohin3

Lifer
Jun 2, 2010
2,461
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Fill, smoke, repeat, fill, smoke, repeat, fill, smoke, repeat. If the pipe provides a negative smoking experience after repeated use, get rid of it. If it continues to provide the blissful smoking experience that we all love, keep it and cherish it. Take note of what pipes you liked and what pipes you didn't like and why. It's the only way to even come close to predicting what a certain pipe will bring to the table and even then there will still be many confounding anomalies. I love this hobby.

 

unclearthur

Lifer
Mar 9, 2010
6,875
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Like any wood there is a huge variation in briar. The blocks I am working with now were cut in Cyprus some 49 years ago and seem to break in quite quickly. Other briar I have had takes a of of time and patience.

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
15,147
7,625
Chicago, IL
Has everybody completely missed the central idea of lagavulin92's post?

Or am I the only person who thinks it's insightful? Profound, even. :crazy:
.

This has more to do with briar quality than how pipes get broken in.

I dunno, maybe I missed the point. (That's been known to happen.)

 

pipetrucker

Part of the Furniture Now
Sep 13, 2010
937
1
Following the white rabbit
Has everybody completely missed the central idea of lagavulin92's post?
Not at all, at least not on my part. It is an interesting perspective, but I am just not entirely sure I agree with it, or even think about it. As I posted, I just smoke the pipe and it does what it does, and as Lawrence stated so well, every pipe has it's own personality. I am just not entirely sure it has anything to do with how quickly a pipe "breaks in", but then that is just my own experience.

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
33
Birmingham, AL
Has everybody completely missed the central idea of lagavulin92's post?

No Cortez I think we may have come at it from a different tack.

I think I was saying that each pipe is going to be different on its own merits. Some pipes are better suited to Aros while some are better suited to English or VaPers.

I believe that each pipe will "in time" reveal its nature and afford the best smoke it can. And through the break in process and the various tobaccos smoked and activities that are engaged in will eventually settle on a particular type of blend and activity. Thus settling and indicating its best character. I think (maybe) what I'm referring to as the pipe, is rooted in the briar used, and the way the pipe is revealed from the block. I am leery of characterizing a pipe by manufacturer, or type of briar because there are so many makers and each block is unique. And, I don't think that the first few bowls of a pipe can be said to be less "active" or more "active" unless the tobacco smoked and the circumstances surrounding that smoke were totally wrong or exactly right because of the many factors that affect a bowl of tobacco. e.g. bowl shape, wall thickness, finish, drilling etc.

To touch on the very first thought I had about the observations conveyed to lagavulin92 by the "my tobacconist, the old man" was something that I mentioned only last week, I believe. One should buy the pipe that appeals to you and not the one that they want to sell you. There in lies the difference between a Dunhill and a Peterson. $$$ (I really didn't want to mention that aspect. But, there it is.) I have to admit though... It was a unique sales pitch. Sorry, I'm feeling somewhat cynical today.

:puffpipe:

 

lagavulin92

Starting to Get Obsessed
Nov 20, 2010
120
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Actually, I don't believe my tobacconist could have been any clearer or more candid. It was much more informative than "brand X uses low-quality briar, brand Y almost always makes fantastic smokers". Buying a pipe is always a gamble because it can always turn out as a bad smoker, with premium priced brands offereing a higher chance of getting a satisfactory smoke. (I don't smoke aros because they are usually peculiar with the pipes they can work with.) But when it comes to trying to categorize briars by their definite properties, independent of how it is cut into a block and finally into a bowl, I believe he has offered an approach that is more valuable than that of age, which is the accepted standard of briar quality (we're not talking about grain aesthetics). I just considered the correlation of break-in speed of testimonials and his long time observation and try to collect other peoples' expriences to test my theory.
As cortezattic, I too have a personal preference for the clearer and edgier smoke, and my puffing cadence is restrained accordingly to keep it bite-free. Sometimes it's reduced to 5 sips a minute, which is when a well broken-in pipe shows its value. I hate relights.

 

cortezattic

Lifer
Nov 19, 2009
15,147
7,625
Chicago, IL
Lawrence wrote a post quite a while ago in which he noted that

it had been suggested that the classic vertical straight grain's value

as a smoker may not be totally aesthetic. Supposedly the vertical straight

grain conducts heat upward more efficiently, which is ...desirable?

Maybe Lawrence can dig up that old post, or elaborate a little.

 
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