Well, once again, a pipe dropped into the water for a few seconds is not even nearly as bad as one soaked overnight.
Briar Pipes and Water
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Well, once again, a pipe dropped into the water for a few seconds is not even nearly as bad as one soaked overnight.
Nope, I am here for entertainment as well. But, if I had not of said something, links to this thread would come up at every mention of rinsing pipes with water. And, I am looking at you, Duane. :
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Totally agreed. However if this thing realigns and smokes fine, it completely disproves the urban legend of the ruined fishing pipe.
Ash, how bad was the finish on the pipe affected? Minimal, moderate, etc.? Did a good wipe restore some of the shine? Or is it decidedly worse for wear?
I like this. Keeps the forum interesting.
In the whole flushing debate one thing I wonder is how the outside finish holds up regardless if the integrity of the briar holds.
Anyhow, thanks Davet and Ashdigger! I'll look forward to the results and the resulting debates.
In the whole flushing debate one thing I wonder is how the outside finish holds up regardless if the integrity of the briar holds.
Anyhow, thanks Davet and Ashdigger! I'll look forward to the results and the resulting debates.
First, it's not a debate... some of us do it, some don't, and then a third group constantly post negative things when we talk about it. No one is trying to convince anyone else.
However, if you are curious, my pipes used to get dull after smoking them a few times. I guess the briar was absorbing the wax. Even after freshly waxing them, after smoking it a couple of times, it was dull. When I started rinsing the pipes and then buffing them with a dry clean towel, they seem to be keeping their shine better. But, I attribute this to the buffing with a towel when done. There is no way a millisecond's worth of water and then instant drying with a towel would have any effect at all on the finish.
Absolutely. This is why some guys wipe their pipe after every smoke with a polishing cloth. Same effect. I personally like the patina of use, but this is reduced by a quick hand buff.
Depends on how the pipe is finished. Doesn't affect stain. Doesn't seem to affect buffed on carnuba wax. However, it will affect Halcyon and Paragon, and probably other microcrystalline waxes. Re-applying those is no big deal.
I use a very small stream to flow through the chamber and shank, so very little water gets on the exterior. And if some does spill over, clean up is no big deal.
People who haven't actually tried this method are in no position to render an informed judgement concerning whether it works or not. They're pretty much limited to their personal fears surrounding it.
And has been pointed out, as interesting as these experiments are, they in no way relate to performing a warm water rinse.
I perform the water rinse often. I flush with the stem in place, warm water for about 4-5 seconds. Then I wipe with paper towels and run a pipe cleaner through the stem. Works for me and it's quick and easy.
Debate or not, I'm enjoying tbis thread and look forward to the final results.
Debate or not, I'm enjoying tbis thread and look forward to the final results.
I see "debate" was a poor choice of words. Perhaps what I meant to type was "discussion". At any rate I am interested in the results of the test by Davet and Ashdigger.
Thanks as always to the erudite members of this esteemed forum and humble apologies for any offense.
Thanks as always to the erudite members of this esteemed forum and humble apologies for any offense.
No need for apologies, as I suspected, people would use this "experiment" as some part of the "discussion" about washing pipes. My post was to reiterate that this has nothing to do with that discussion. No offence was taken by me. I am just going to keep reminding folks, so as to not confuse the two things. :
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FWIW, After I pulled the briar out of the water and used a paper towl to sop up excess water and then weighed it. After I weighed it I cleaned out the shank.
The shank has never been cleaner.
When I get back tonight I'll weigh the pipe and check the stem fit.
The shank has never been cleaner.
When I get back tonight I'll weigh the pipe and check the stem fit.
I do think it qualifies as a debate. I may be wrong, but I saw this as an attempt to go to the extreme in order to establish a border from which we can shrink inwards toward a conclusion. The debate being, “Is water detrimental to a pipe, or not.” There are plenty of variables, and this fun experiment doesn’t deal with many of them, but the results will be very interesting, even outside of the “detrimental or not” debate. Experimenting is fun! As is debating. I’m having a great time following along.
Here we are 12 hours later. 6:16 pm (PST). The pipe weighs 36 grams. The stem is still loose in the shank and the finish looks like shit. REMEMBER.....these are OBSERVATIONS and not CONCLUSIONS. As I was typing this (after the photo) the pipe now weighs 35 grams. That's the same as when this started.
Good points. We're trying to overcome over 100 years of merchants shouting "Water will ruin your pipe!! Oh, by the way, we have some alcohol based stuff that will sweeten your smoker, rid it of all tar, give it a nice sheen. And fix your ulcers and grow back your hair all at the same time."
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