Briar Lab Is Shutting Down!
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I think the idea of them needing/wanting donations in the first place to set up their own business was a very bad idea, if I remember correctly it was frowned upon in the community of carvers. I think Nate is a good guy, but asking for donations to start your own business is a tacky move.
Most business begin with other peoples money, whether it's begged, borrowed, stolen, etc...
Private equity is at the root of progress and capitalism. No shame in it. Social media has has replaced, in some respects, the need for the tedious wining and dining, hookers an blow, and boardrooms packed with lawyers. Or whatever your local equivalent is. I'm all for it.
Edit: Too bad about briarlabs, on the other hand did anyone ever do any business with them?
Private equity is at the root of progress and capitalism. No shame in it. Social media has has replaced, in some respects, the need for the tedious wining and dining, hookers an blow, and boardrooms packed with lawyers. Or whatever your local equivalent is. I'm all for it.
Edit: Too bad about briarlabs, on the other hand did anyone ever do any business with them?
Does anyone know what the reason was?
Yes, Bigpond is correct. Most businesses have to start with begging banks, or making big promises on golf courses. Asking for funding on social media is just an extension of that.
BTW, has anyone heard from that bunch of hipsters that had us all donate money to fund their pipe smoking movie, Father the Flame? It's been what, 5 years now?
Yes, Bigpond is correct. Most businesses have to start with begging banks, or making big promises on golf courses. Asking for funding on social media is just an extension of that.
BTW, has anyone heard from that bunch of hipsters that had us all donate money to fund their pipe smoking movie, Father the Flame? It's been what, 5 years now?
I just hope it's not going to be two hours of guys riding skateboards and grooming their beards while smoking to some weird hard metal music.
Dagners, that sounds familiar. Oh wait, those are the Youtubers that flamed our forum in a video over nothing, ha ha. Yeh, those guys are making the movie? Egads, I am going to be less generous to these artsy types.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not Cosmic, but in the interest of preventing crazy rumors:
Dagners Father of the Flame People
Actually, aside from being bearded and both being related to pipes in different ways, they have pretty much nothing in common.
Seriously, on FotF, they're getting close. We've been talking to them regularly. Yes, this has been a long time in coming, but it takes a long time to put together a well-made feature-length documentary on a small budget.
Sykes
That was supposed to read: "Dagners DOES NOT EQUAL Father of the Flame People." Looks like the forum software stripped out my symbols for that...sorry.
Ahhh, thanks. I would have been upset if I had of inadvertently given the Dagners money. But, of course someone from here is going to tell those guys (greatly exagerating what was said), and they'll bash us in another video, and then 300 new forum members will show up because of the free press, ha ha. The Circle of life!
The whole premise of Briar Lab was kind of a crowd funded open community where pipemakers could join up to learn and use equipment. People do this with Maker Sheds all the time. There are always inherent issues with the "business" model, and it has to be that way since they sure weren't going to get a gov't grant to get funded!
Rumor has it that one of the two co founders decided to "leave", making it unfeasible for the one left to continue on.
Rumor has it that one of the two co founders decided to "leave", making it unfeasible for the one left to continue on.
Yeh Ash, I was trying to be funny in my response, but when faced with being either a horrible comedian or a bumbling idiot, I thought it better to go with the bumbling idiot. At least that way I didn't fail miserably at something. Better to be laughed at, than pitied. :
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