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scooterdoo

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I just can't get it right...not sure what I'm doing wrong but I really don't get any special flavor from this. I'll figure it out one of these days.

 

Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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I would post my own video here, but that would get my hand slapped. Here's one from Alan Kerslake.
https://youtu.be/0o8Sfg6EH9k

 

woodsroad

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Oct 10, 2013
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Ok, thanks D4K. I kind of do that now anyways.But the reason that it doesn’t work for some people is that they involuntarily cut off airflow from the mouth when breathing through the nose. You have to practice breathing through the nose and mouth at the same time!

 

Chasing Embers

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they involuntarily cut off airflow from the mouth when breathing through the nose
That's how it's done. You create a vacuum in your mouth in time with your breathing only allowing the airflow to mix during a retrohale.

 

Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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I know, it's easier to show somebody and then when you figure it out you wonder why it took so long! :rofl:

 
Jan 28, 2018
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Pull the smoke to the back of your mouth and then breath out through your nose. It's kind of like a throat inhale. I don't see how it makes any difference whether you clinch or not. Or perhaps I'm thinking of something different.

 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
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It's kind of like a throat inhale.

This is what concerns me about this method: ending up pulling smoke (in any amount) to the lungs. Probably, my body is unconsciously 'holding back' in some way, trying to prevent an unwanted situation from happening—and at the same time throwing a monkey wrench in the whole process.
How he blows smoke back though the pipe on every draw, I'm surprised he hasn't burned a hole in his pipes.

Is that how holes get burnt into a pipe's walls? I recall someone telling me that he used to get a pipe for his father every year as a birthday gift; I asked him back, 'wow, how many pipes did your father end up having?', to which he replied, 'only one. He'd burn a hole through each one, hence my having to buy him one every year!'
Ever since I've been wanting to ask here what causes one to blow a hole through a pipe, but I've hesitated to open a thread for just that question.

 
Jan 28, 2018
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You're inhaling some amount of smoke into your lungs regardless. You're also inhaling toxins into your lungs if you live near a highway. But I understand. I think the way I do it, there is a very, very minimal amount of smoke that gets inhaled. And it sure enhances the flavors of the tobacco.
Some people blow some very short, light puffs back through the pipe to keep it lit I guess. I've tried it but have never made it a habit. Unless their fast and longer breathes, I don't think it would heat up the pipe appreciably.

 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
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Yup, and as a matter of fact I'm inhaling quite a bit of "2nd hand smoke" since I smoke in my car, but yeah, what I'm concerned about is inhaling à la cigarettes.
My 'method' is to take a breath, hold the air, then sip/puff, swirl the smoke in my mouth for a second or two and blow it out along with my exhalation, then breathe again. Having my lungs filled with air prevents me from accidentally inhaling. I do this for both pipes and cigars, and even cigarettes —which I also don't inhale.
I'm not a clencher. Hell, I've never managed what some do with cigarettes: puff whilst holding them between their lips, hands-free; I have to hold them with my two fingers. Yeah, I know they're inhaling, which would make it easier, but still.

 

Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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Is it okay for me to do that? I'm making those just for the forum and recently got mixed signals.

 

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jvnshr

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Right. It’s hard to explain!
It is simply a Venturi effect. When there is a pipe clenching in your mouth and your mouth is closed, the only air intake can be achieved through the pipe. While breathing (as shown with blue arrows) the air inhaled through the nose goes through the pharynx (the area marked with red), because it is a constricted section, air speeds up thus pressure drops. Decrease in pressure creates a vacuum (partial) and attracts the air around it which is in your mouth, this ends up with taking more air through the pipe. And yes, some of that smoke goes to your lungs.
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Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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Except I treat my mouth like a separate breathing organ. I create a vacuum in my mouth by opening my jaw. The smoke never enters my throat until and if I retrohale. I time the mouth pressure with my breathing, but never use my breathing to adjust the pressure in my mouth.

 

Chasing Embers

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Nov 12, 2014
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In my video, I am drawing while breathing both in and out by applying a vacuum created by expanding my mouth cavity and no by venturi pressure changes in my throat.

 

artificialme

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Mar 15, 2018
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I just can't get it right...not sure what I'm doing wrong but I really don't get any special flavor from this. I'll figure it out one of these days.
Do retrohale. Blow the smoke out from your nose. I can sense the flavor better that way :)
Btw, I do breath smoking every time I smoked. But so hard to do clenching with some of my pipes. Maybe the pipe, maybe my mouth anatomy.

 
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