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Jul 28, 2016
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24 years old and still good?

I've avoided stockpiling my menthols because I figured they wouldn't hold up more than a year or two.

Maybe I'll reconsider...

You ain't bullshitin us are you?

I know pipe tobacco holds up, but I figured cigarettes wouldn't.

Send me a pack and let me inspect 'em.
Love Your sense of Humor, Sir
 
Jul 28, 2016
8,154
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"Try to dry" is a rule for me...
Same here ,for instance I have to dry all those OTC tobaccos I use to smoke be it Amphora, Skandinavisk or Half& Half no matter what the blend, otherwise I'm prone to getting tongue bite quite easy, although exception to this rule are St Bruno and Erinmore , those I prefer slightly more moist
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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On top of that, 24 years old and the year 2001 in a sentence just doesn't sound right yet.

I bought them in 2001, found out she smoked menthols and tossed them in a drawer, and bought her two cartons of menthols instead.

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I’m Scottish Ozark American.

We never toss anything away.:)

They are good with the filters on, and much better when broken off.

These slept in a heavy oak desk drawer for 24 years. The tobacco was likely harvested in the late 90s.

A More cigarrete was an answer to Sherman’s Cigarettellos.

They might be straight Virginia like Sherman’s were. They taste like a Sherman or Player’s Medium Navy Cut, for what that’s worth.

Nat Sherman or RJ Reynolds never owned one tobacco farm, probably never touched a tobacco plant.

They manufactured cigarettes, and their best ones were made of the best grades of Virginia.

When my wife smoked, before she got sick, she would only smoke Virginia Slims 120 menthols.

Which smelled like Capstan laced with menthol, just delicious.
 
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FLDRD

Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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I've accidentally discovered that some blends like me better when dried out. I opened a tin of Mac Baren Navy Flake a few months back and was sorely disappointed.
I let it hang out in my garage in it's square tin these last couple of dry winter months, and now that it crunches - it smokes so much better - and now I get a pleasant experience from it!
Always learning something new...
 

starrynight

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 10, 2023
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I've accidentally discovered that some blends like me better when dried out. I opened a tin of Mac Baren Navy Flake a few months back and was sorely disappointed.
I let it hang out in my garage in it's square tin these last couple of dry winter months, and now that it crunches - it smokes so much better - and now I get a pleasant experience from it!
Always learning something new...
Yup. All these responses were what I was hoping for, and kind of confirm that more often than not, dry is best.

Gawith flakes on the other hand, I like moist IIRC, but, I can never keep it light for more than a few moments…
 
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Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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When I built fence the summer of 1973 all cigarettes at the cafe in Dunnegan were 40 cents a pack or $3.20 a carton except unfiltered Pall Malls, $3.70 a carton.

I asked Bea Ellis the reason and she asked her supplier and he didn’t know so I wrote the company. Somewhere I have a letter from The American Tobacco company in a trunk in my barn.

Pall Mall was a British cigarette, and made only from the highest grades of Virginia.


Even in 1973 they only used the best flue cured Virginia leaf.

The best cigar filler is raised in Cuba, the best cigar wrapper in Connecticut and the best multipurpose smoking tobacco in North Carolina, in the Old Belt.

You can buy five pounds of it for $52 or one pound for $12.


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Buoy Gold might be cut a little with burley, but not much.
 

elvishrunes

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Jun 19, 2017
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I‘m more partial to out of the tin, slightly moist smokes…. But just this weekend ironically I had some of my own blend I made in 2021, jarred in glass with a good seal. And it was on the drier side, and smoked amazing, full flavour and good burn. I thought it might be too dry, but wasn’t.
 

Ziller

Lurker
Feb 9, 2024
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Any tin/bulk I open, I jar it with whatever moisture level it shows up with. And I'll dry bowl's worth of almost all of them to almost completely dry before smoking. English blends I don't dry nearly as much as VA stuff, and it works great for me. Very seldom do I end up swabbing the stem with a cleaner anymore since I started drying more, and reduced bite entirely.
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
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About D&R, Mark said, “Why should people pay for water rather than tobacco?”
When I was still a noob, I ordered several pounds on a C&D sale from SP.com. Most of it came REAL dry. I was worried because Everyone was saying how things needed to be sealed up so good, so I took that to mean retaining ALL the moisture was paramount. I came and posted here about it and learned that dry is fine, it can be rehydrated (if you want), and to reiterate: "why pay for water?".
 

wyfbane

Lifer
Apr 26, 2013
5,703
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Tennessee
I've accidentally discovered that some blends like me better when dried out. I opened a tin of Mac Baren Navy Flake a few months back and was sorely disappointed.
I let it hang out in my garage in it's square tin these last couple of dry winter months, and now that it crunches - it smokes so much better - and now I get a pleasant experience from it!
Always learning something new...
It REALLY comes into it's own with 5 years on it. I promise.
 

starrynight

Starting to Get Obsessed
Mar 10, 2023
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I‘m more partial to out of the tin, slightly moist smokes…. But just this weekend ironically I had some of my own blend I made in 2021, jarred in glass with a good seal. And it was on the drier side, and smoked amazing, full flavour and good burn. I thought it might be too dry, but wasn’t.
Yeah, that's the other thing... This tin had some decent age on it. I'm smoking some bullseye flake right now, and it's not giving the same experience--I know it's a different tobacco. I'm wondering if age + dryness plays a factor as well. I recently opened a tin of Capstan blue with only a few years on it, and preferred it moist to dried out. Interesting.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
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Mar 13, 2020
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I looked up the average humidity of exterior wood in Missouri, and it’s nearly the same moisture content as ideal for pipe tobacco.

Inside an air conditioned office inside an oak desk my two cartons of More cigarretes are still near ideal humidity levels.


Further north and tobacco would get bone dry, and further south might rot.
How about outside in the dog days of the Ozark summer? I dread smoking a pipe in those conditions, but it's possible. Though last summer wasn't too bad.
 

bullet08

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
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Personally don't care for bone dry tobacco. But there are those who loves them. VA is very forgiving and I like it on crispy side, but not done dry. Bone dry tobacco are rather harsh to me.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
5,205
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Humansville Missouri
How about outside in the dog days of the Ozark summer? I dread smoking a pipe in those conditions, but it's possible. Though last summer wasn't too bad.

Everybody always cusses the weather, wherever they are, but Warsaw Missouri is the center of all black walnut gun stocks and Lebanon Missouri is where your oak stave bolts were made for your last bottle of bourbon. We also make most of the country hams in the world, or at least the best ones.

Southwest Missouri gets hot, but not for long, it gets cold here, but also not for long, Southwest Missouri has on a year round average very temperate climate and stable humidity,,,,averaged out.

The Ozarks has it’s own growing zone in the seed catalogs,

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Mar 13, 2020
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Everybody always cusses the weather, wherever they are, but Warsaw Missouri is the center of all black walnut gun stocks and Lebanon Missouri is where your oak stave bolts were made for your last bottle of bourbon. We also make most of the country hams in the world, or at least the best ones.

Southwest Missouri gets hot, but not for long, it gets cold here, but also not for long, Southwest Missouri has on a year round average very temperate climate and stable humidity,,,,averaged out.

The Ozarks has it’s own growing zone in the seed catalogs,

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Yes whatever the extremes they don't last long. I prefer the fall down here. Best time of year in my opinion.
 
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FLDRD

Lifer
Oct 13, 2021
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It REALLY comes into it's own with 5 years on it. I promise.
That may have been the only tin of it that I had, but I'm ok with it. I've got loads of blends to try, and extras of other favorites. I actually have a cellar's "worth" that just accumulated somehow...