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brass

Lifer
Jun 4, 2014
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Ok, guys, thanks for the feedback. I've ordered the following Navy Flakes and will do my on personal survey of NFs this month. I couldn't find one vendor that had everything, so will have to get Newminster another time.
Mac Baren: NAVY FLAKE 100g

McClelland: NAVY CAVENDISH 100g

Peter Stokkebye: LUXURY NAVY FLAKE

G.L. Pease: NAVIGATOR 2oz

McClelland Bulk: 2035: NAVY FLAKE

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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OK, Pipers. I am in serious need of some schooling. As to the definition of Navy Flake thing being VA/Rum topping, I get that. So, Escudo Navy DeLuxe is or is not? And if it is not, is it because it is spun/coin and not a flat flake, or because it has no rum topping? I get that it is a VA/Per, but I guess the name just throws me. School is in session, and I would like to hear from every Pipe Professor who has an opinion on it.

 

leadtungstate

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May 24, 2014
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My definition was more or less a guess based on various navy flakes that I have seen.

Since fellow pipe smoker Brass agrees with it I guess that this should be it.

However, from my experience I get there isn't any strict standard.
By the way I was considering SG Navy Flake a proper navy flake. Latakia is just for spice. It is an excellent tobbaco as well, though you have to be careful how to prepare it to smoke.

 

okiescout

Lifer
Jan 27, 2013
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PS Luxury Navy Flake, but I like NM #400 Luxury Navy Flake also, although it is just VA. Cellared a lot of both.

 

brass

Lifer
Jun 4, 2014
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This is only one smokers opinion but it seems to me that you can add condiment ingredients to a blend without changing its nature. But I don't think you can remove or substitute key ingredients and have it remain the same blend.
So, if a Navy Flake is essentially Va+Rum, then removing the rum or substituting burley for the Virginians, I would believe that the blend is no longer a Navy Flake. If the same Navy Flake was cut into ribbons, it would no longer be a Navy Flake.
Since Escudo isn't cased with Rum and since it is a large curly cut coin, I certainly wouldn't consider it a Navy Flake.
My understanding is, that back in the colonial days, sailors twisted their tobacco into ropes and soaked them in rum, to save space and for preservative measures. They would then slice off coins from the rope, when they were ready for a smoke.
From this tradition, I could see where makers of twists, ropes and coins might argue that their product is a Navy tobacco. (Not a flake though.)
Unfortunately, we don't have a standards committee with authority to settle these matters. (On reflection, better not to have such a committee.)
Language is a living organism, always changing, which can be frustrating, and pipe smokers have to learn to live with some ambiguity. For example, is there really such a thing as a balkan blend or is a balkan just another word for an oriental heavy English blend. Does adding liquor make a blend an aromatic? What is an American blend? Any burley based blend? When does a dublin become a horn or an egg bowl become a tomato - or a tomato become an author, etc, etc. etc.
Of course, without ambiguity, we would have much less to discuss on these forums. :lol:

 
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perdurabo

Lifer
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PS Luxury Navy Flake PipesandCigars.com advertises it as Virginia/Perique with a kiss of Rum. Just got some In today. It's awesome. Not as spicey as Escudo but 10 times better than PSLuxury BullsEye flake. The rum gives the flake a hint of sweetness. I think I like it better than Orlik Golden Sliced, when considering a small percent of perique.

 

aldecaker

Lifer
Feb 13, 2015
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Brass, thank you for your reply to my question. It pretty much clears up my confusion on the subject. And plus one about the ambiguity thing. It would get pretty dull on here without it!

 
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