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Puffaluffaguss

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Jul 30, 2021
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Hello all, I know alot of you have been smoking much longer then I, so instead of buying an ounce of all the different bulk flakes (which ill probably still end up doing). I wanted to get some of your opinions. I've only tried PS LNF and Stokkebyes Evening Flake, I enjoy both but is there better? I'd like to hear what you o'l timers have to say.
 

pipingfool

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Sep 29, 2016
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Don't know about "better", but Newminster #400 Navy Flake is pretty damn good. Especially with a little age.

I also like PS LNF, and I have lots of it in the cellar. It is a remarkably different blend after a little age. For the better in my opinion.

GH Best Brown Flake #2 is another good one in bulk if you can find it.

Happy searching!
 

MikeDub

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Sep 26, 2022
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If you consider 8 oz cans bulk - and I do - C&D Opening Night & GL Pease Union Square are both phenomenal VA flakes. I don’t really care for VaPer’s so I don’t have any suggestions for those.

If by bulk you mean available by the oz, I’d agree with most of the suggestions already given
 

pcfdave

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Mar 10, 2021
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Just curious. How do you know how old the bulk tobacco you bought is? I didn’t think to ask the b&m. And it obviously doesn’t have the tin date stamp. Is there a rule of thumb with store jars and how old their stuff is? I bought both the PS LNF and PS Lbullseye
 

OzPiper

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Nov 30, 2020
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I enjoy both but is there better? I'd like to hear what you o'l timers have to say.
One person's ***** blend may be another's *

By all means get recommendations.
But you still need to decide for yourself. You need to work out what YOU like

I would not buy 1lb of a blend on someone's recommendation unless I know that we have similar tastes
 
Jul 26, 2021
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One person's ***** blend may be another's *

By all means get recommendations.
But you still need to decide for yourself. You need to work out what YOU like
I would just add that bulk tobacco is relatively inexpensive, so picking up a bunch of different blends isn't necessarily a tall order.

SPC has a great search function and the bulk blends can be found at various sites.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
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I would just add that bulk tobacco is relatively inexpensive, so picking up a bunch of different blends isn't necessarily a tall order.
In the US, EU and UK, and indeed a lot of countries, tobacco is still very cheap
Not so in Oz or Kiwiland.
I'm just about to put in an order for a 100Gm (4oz) tin. Price is AUD $289 :eek:
Its a HUGE decision to stock up 1 lb of anything
Costly mistake if it's not to your taste.
Or you decide that there is something you like more. :cry:
 

didimauw

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Jul 28, 2013
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In the US, EU and UK, and indeed a lot of countries, tobacco is still very cheap
Not so in Oz or Kiwiland.
I'm just about to put in an order for a 100Gm (4oz) tin. Price is AUD $289 :eek:
Its a HUGE decision to stock up 1 lb of anything
Costly mistake if it's not to your taste.
Or you decide that there is something you like more. :cry:
Man....289AUD IS 203 USD. I can get almost 4 lbs of the most expensive of my favorite blends for that price.

Alcohol cheap there?
 

Swiss Army Knife

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Jul 12, 2021
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Depends on what kind of Virginia you like. If you lean towards the yellow/bright then Newminster No. 400 and Sutliff 507C are the best bang for your buck. With the former being especially graham cracker-y.

If you lean toward the reds you're going to have a harder time. Maybe something like GH&Co. Best Brown Flake but that's more middle of the road than a true red flake to my taste. Still great though.

I'll be interested to see if anyone can recommend smaller B&M fare like Watch City's 558 Flake and LJP's 150th Anniversary Flake. I've tried 558 but not enough to give an opinion on it.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
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Man....289AUD IS 203 USD. I can get almost 4 lbs of the most expensive of my favorite blends for that price.

Alcohol cheap there?
You can get bottles of 2-buck chuck but alcohol is again quite highly taxed here in Oz.

Some years ago the Government legislated to impose a 15% GST (Goods and Services Tax) - the equivalent of UK's VAT.
Someone working in the Tax Department worked out that there would be a huge shortfall in tax revenue levied on alcohol at 15%
So in its wisdom they came up with the WET - Wine Equalisation Tax. To claw back all the monies they would have lost under the 15% GST

For instance, a 700ml bottle of Wild Turkey is AUD $55 and Makers Mark is AUD $59

Imported wine prices (eg French and USA) are significantly higher in Oz than in the USA
I do realise that due to state taxes, prices can vary quite a bit

But the Oz (anti-) Fun Police are out to see that we don't have too much fun.
 
Jun 9, 2018
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In the US, EU and UK, and indeed a lot of countries, tobacco is still very cheap
Not so in Oz or Kiwiland.
I'm just about to put in an order for a 100Gm (4oz) tin. Price is AUD $289 :eek:
Its a HUGE decision to stock up 1 lb of anything
Costly mistake if it's not to your taste.
Or you decide that there is something you like more. :cry:
Those prices are insane. I won't complain quite so much when I next have to pay £20 for a 50g tin.
 

rmbittner

Lifer
Dec 12, 2012
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Hello all, I know alot of you have been smoking much longer then I, so instead of buying an ounce of all the different bulk flakes (which ill probably still end up doing). I wanted to get some of your opinions. I've only tried PS LNF and Stokkebyes Evening Flake, I enjoy both but is there better? I'd like to hear what you o'l timers have to say.
I’m curious how you define a navy flake. “Navy flake” has had a variety of official definitions in the past; nowadays it can simply refer to a flake cut. But it can also refer to a flake that includes rum—which is how I define it for myself, since I really enjoy those flakes. (If it doesn’t have rum in it, I’m at a loss as to what makes a plain flake “navy.” Seems that some manufacturers treat it as just a name for a flake these days.)

I don’t know if it qualifies as a bulk to you, but you can pick up Samuel Gawith’s Navy Flake in 8oz boxes. It is, by far, my favorite navy flake: a Virginia base with just a condimental touch of latakia and a rum topping.
 

Peterson314

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Sep 13, 2019
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I've got a quarter pound of Newminster 400 in a jar in the back of my cellar. It has about 6 months on it now, so I'm going to let it mellow. I haven't even tried it yet. Before I break into that, Stokkebye's Luxury Navy Flake is my go-to.