Oh yeah, I'm a leather worker now! 10 minutes with an strap from an old purse kit, a hobby knife, punch and some stain, I'm all set. I picked up a pair of aluminum shoulder screws at Lowes. I think Central Farm and Tractor has the studded ball end screws (what are they called??), which would allow for different sizes. But, these work well with my larger pipes. I applied some Fiebings shoe dye, should I do anything else? These are hack, but will work. I laid those tools out there, just so you guys will see that I know what I'm doing......