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Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
10,340
41,837
RTP, NC. USA
I will never tell an ugly girl that she's beautiful to be polite. Or tell a stupid kid that he/she is smart. But it seems being honest is sort of an old fashion virtue now days. Rather keep silent than lie to make others feel better. Polite is good, but saying something that is totally untrue for the sake of other feeling is just being wrong. Of course, I do have beautiful nieces. There is one that isn't so polite to my eyes, but I never commented on her looks. Otherwise, my wife would have skinned me.
 

Andriko

Can't Leave
Nov 8, 2021
384
945
London
Honesty doesn't matter anymore; just 'my truth', and God help you if you don't accede to it!

I think we may be living in a time where we consider ourselves such good people we don't realise how much bad we manage to do to keep up the pretense.
 
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Honestly, I don't think any kid is good looking, so I rarely would comment on how a kid looks. I might make a comment to my wife as the kid and parent walks away, like "what an ugly kid." But, my opinion on that to the parent would be none of their business. As to whether they are smart or not... I'm not giving out IQ tests.

I don't feel compelled to lie to make someone feel better, but I don't have to put them down either. Hell, why am I talking to these dumb ugly kids anyways?

But, Mark Twain weighed in on the subject... On The Decay Of The Art Of Lying... he promoted lying to prevent people from feeling bad, and/or to manipulate a situation. Funny stuff, worth a read.
 

sham

(theSHAMOO)
May 20, 2022
115
386
Charlotte, NC
I have no problem with 'ugly' people being called beautiful. Aesthetics are largely subjective and go through seasons of change. What does it hurt? If you believe all humans are made in the image of God, there is an inherent beauty to that.

But I wouldn't lie to someone about them being smart. Some people are dumb, and there's nothing wrong with that.puffy
 
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trouttimes

Lifer
Nov 26, 2018
6,248
25,431
Lake Martin, AL
My wife says I have no filters. That is one of the many reasons I avoid people. I will not give opinions when not asked. I have opinions but I keep them to myself. I will tell you what I think if you ask. You may be too dense to understand. You’re not all that bright. Inbred?
Yes, your ass looks big with that pipe. That tobacco taste like cow crap.
 
Aug 11, 2022
2,663
20,893
Cedar Rapids, IA
I will never tell an ugly girl that she's beautiful to be polite. Or tell a stupid kid that he/she is smart. But it seems being honest is sort of an old fashion virtue now days. Rather keep silent than lie to make others feel better. Polite is good, but saying something that is totally untrue for the sake of other feeling is just being wrong. Of course, I do have beautiful nieces. There is one that isn't so polite to my eyes, but I never commented on her looks. Otherwise, my wife would have skinned me.
You are all over the place here. The question of whether to be tactful or blunt has been with us forever.
 

JackOrion

Can't Leave
Feb 3, 2023
345
3,049
West Yonkers California
It’s a generational thing. Have you noticed that young people use precursors such as “I feel like…..” or end a statement in the form of a question?
Most often on sites like instagram if I express an honest opinion, someone will resort to labeling me as a ‘Hater’ if my opinion isn’t favorable.
Bob Dylan wrote a great narrative to this mentality “It’s All Good”
 

anotherbob

Lifer
Mar 30, 2019
16,860
31,618
46
In the semi-rural NorthEastern USA
We have a saying here in the south. "Bless your heart." Works great in those situations. "Oh bless her heart," goes a long way to say "damn that girl is ugly."
up here it's "I love him/her/them but..." that is used in the same kind of way. A little more blunt but bless your heart ;).
I will never tell an ugly girl that she's beautiful to be polite. Or tell a stupid kid that he/she is smart. But it seems being honest is sort of an old fashion virtue now days. Rather keep silent than lie to make others feel better. Polite is good, but saying something that is totally untrue for the sake of other feeling is just being wrong. Of course, I do have beautiful nieces. There is one that isn't so polite to my eyes, but I never commented on her looks. Otherwise, my wife would have skinned me.
Honest has always been more popular in theory then in practice. History is full of demonstrations of this. And it's also always been true that you can get away with more truth if you can make them laugh.
 

David D. Davidson

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 19, 2023
200
778
Canada
It’s a generational thing. Have you noticed that young people use precursors such as “I feel like…..” or end a statement in the form of a question?
I personally like the pivoting to people speaking their subjective perspective, rather than claiming to speak an objective truth. I think people nowadays are (sometimes) more aware that we’re all flawed, subjective viewers with incomplete pictures.

Plenty of opinionated morons out there too, but I personally have come across more people recently who acknowledge their imperfection and subjective biases. I see it with kids a lot too - bullying is far less common, and people are more accepting of those different than them.

I think it belies a shift in how people see their place in the world - fewer and fewer people see themselves as somehow fundamentally special compared to their peers. There’s of course a metric ton of people who don’t follow this trend, but it seems to be moving in that direction, and I feel very positive about it!
 

El Capitán

Lifer
Jun 5, 2022
1,174
4,848
34
Newberry, Indiana
Beauty is objective to me. What I find beautiful and what others find beautiful will differ. Intelligence is hard to determine at times. I just go with the flow. I'll compliment people on their actions rather that objectives like beauty and intelligence.
 
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El Capitán

Lifer
Jun 5, 2022
1,174
4,848
34
Newberry, Indiana
Well, this biological male just made the Maxim list of "Hottest 100 WOMEN".

I'll be honest and say this is revolting psychotic bullshit.

It's pandering to a minority. I have no problem with transgendered people as long as they aren't forcing my to do things I don't believe in.