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AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
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28,134
Florida - Space Coast
My first tobacco pipe was a MM Cob I bought at Liberty Tobacco in SD and a couple ounces of bulls eye flake outta the big jar. It didn't take that time, i was just getting into the Cubans and that def took, was glad i didn't spend a lot of money to find out i wasn't into it at the time.
 
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
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I think this is a personality test. Some people will always start smoking a pipe by studying the pipes available and get the best quality pipe for the lowest possible cost, be it a cob or a standard brand briar.

Other people don't consider they have given pipe smoking a try unless they get something costing hundreds of dollars. I guess if they decide not to smoke, they keep it as a momento just in case they decide to try again.

You can get a high functioning pipe for under $50 and a pipe that will never smoke right for $350 or $650 on up. It's between you and your bank account. You have to do it your way.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
6,743
36,383
72
Sydney, Australia
I started out when I was an undergraduate, on an allowance from Dad

No way could I afford anything fancy

I bought tobacco (OTCs) a pouch at a time and eked it out until my next allowance arrived

But hey, I persisted - in the days before the www 😁
Even though there was no guidance until a few years later when I found a knowledgeable tobacconist in an arcade under my office
 

RookieGuy80

Part of the Furniture Now
Jul 6, 2023
734
2,710
Maryland, United States
A lot of what's considered a beginners pipe comes down to the experience level and resources of that particular beginner. Cobs aren't perfect. But they are a decent system to learn on. It's the same school of thought that's leading me to get my teenage daughter a 15 year old Civic or S-10 rather than a brand new Elantra.
 
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JOHN72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2020
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Spain - Europe
I mean, if you buy a 50 dollar flute, violin, or guitar, it doesn't sound the same as these instruments mentioned, but with a cost of 10,000 dollars. I mean, quality is the key to success for enjoyment. Even if you don't know how to blow the damn flute. That is, if the damn cheap flute, even if you are an expert blower, will never sound like a fucking $10,000 flute. Damn, it's like if you smoke a wet skunk and then go for a shit in the woods on your bike, at 2am in the middle of a thunderstorm. I don't know if I have made myself clear.tumblr_79f513dcb347395d2a4be057b0a5a813_16e4fa78_500.gif
 

Lumbridge

(Pazuzu93)
Feb 16, 2020
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Cascadia, U.S.
Well, this thread took quite a different turn than the last one I remember participating in in regards to cobs... where the idea conveyed was that people who smoked cobs are lazy... ;) I have started a few folks out on them and lets just say if you recommend a cob, you just earned yourself a lot of mentoring with break-in, pipe mud, etc. Maybe not the best idea for an internet recommendation, where you can't be there to say, "don't lick the flame over the rim" on the first light lol. On here, I'd agree it's best to recommend a Grabow/Brigham/Rossi or the like.
I have to respectfully disagree that cobs aren't a good beginner's pipe. I started with cobs and just started smoking, no break-in, pipe mud, or voodoo rituals needed. I found them pretty easy to use as a beginner, and the experience taught me how to avoid rim char before I ever even touched a briar. I find them to be the best option for someone starting out because they smoke great and cost pennies.
 

Lumbridge

(Pazuzu93)
Feb 16, 2020
763
2,752
Cascadia, U.S.
Any sort of pipe would be just fine for someone just starting out. Meerschaum would be fine as long as it's block meerschaum, and not the cheap crap made from dust mixed with adhesive. Those abominations shouldn't even be on the market.

Clays, being fragile and running a little hot, might not be the best option for a beginner, but certainly serviceable as long as they know what they're getting into.
 

dsturg369

Can't Leave
May 9, 2009
358
745
57
Augusta, GA
My first was a MM Country Gentleman from Topp Shelf Tobacco in Evans, GA, back in 2008, and some Lane's 1Q the shop owner Russ had under a store brand name. Although awkward and brand spanking new to pipes, I was hooked from the first time lighting up. I had been smoking cigars for many years but cigars have pretty much taken a backseat to my pipes since that day. They just keep aging in my cooler and humidors until needed. MM cobs are still my daily and favorite pipes to smoke.
 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,210
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I've had great smokes out of basic (low cost) briars as well as cobs. I don't think learning to smoke a pipe with one of these would lessen the enjoyment.

If a person wanted to spend a month's salary on a pipe, and had the luck to buy a well functioning pipe, and had the skill to master the technique, I'm sure that could be a pleasant experience. But not a requirement. Some basic briars and cobs smoke as well as any.
 
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Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
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I mean, if you buy a 50 dollar flute, violin, or guitar, it doesn't sound the same as these instruments mentioned, but with a cost of 10,000 dollars. I mean, quality is the key to success for enjoyment. Even if you don't know how to blow the damn flute. That is, if the damn cheap flute, even if you are an expert blower, will never sound like a fucking $10,000 flute. Damn, it's like if you smoke a wet skunk and then go for a shit in the woods on your bike, at 2am in the middle of a thunderstorm. I don't know if I have made myself clear.View attachment 239103
Yes, but instruments are engineered for sound quality, a pipe is just a pretty straw. Really hard to mess up unless you just don't care about what you're making. A precision music instrument enhances the skill of the player but the smoker's ability reflects more on the smokability of a pipe than the pipe itself.
 
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ParkitoATL

Can't Leave
Mar 11, 2023
405
1,475
Atlanta, GA
I agree. I started out with a Cobb and got discouraged. Went to a basic Peterson and found the two pipes smoke significantly different. The Peterson was easier to smoke. If you want to smoke cobs pipes there is a learning curve just like briars.
Totally agree. I had some cobbs and misc estates but things really started popping for me when I bought my Peterson 303. It really taught me how to smoke a pipe. Now I have four Petes. :)