Bad Batch/Tin?

[WildTurkeySurprise]

I’ve mentioned in a couple places on here I recently opened and had a couple bowls from a tin of C&D Joie De Vivre. Englishes are my preferred genre, and while the blend scores admirably on tobaccoreviews.com, I find it smells and tastes radically different from any of the other two dozen or so English blends I have tried, and in a substantially off-putting way. While the plug looks perfectly fine, the tin note is remarkably similar to chicken litter, and that remains dominant in the taste when smoked. I am not speaking in hyperbole here. Having grown up on a farm, that particular note is unmistakable. I have tried many other blends that have a reputation for being polarizing (this isn’t one, as far as I know); none of which, to my taste, have been anywhere near this offensive. My question is, could I have simply gotten a bad batch? How common is that?

**I mean no offense to any C&D affiliated folks that may happen across this post. I love Star of the East Flake and Rajah’s Court, which is in part why I am wondering what is up with my unexpected experience with Joie de Vivre here.

 

[bullet08]

Put it away in a jar for a week or two and try again. There are cases of bad batches, but I don't think they are very often.

 

[Aomalley27]

Put it away in a jar for a week or two and try again. There are cases of bad batches, but I don't think they are very often.

Unless you’re talking 2016/2017..... just about everything C&D put out had mold (of course I’m exaggerating, but quite a few blends suffered mold issues :Red Flake, Autumn Evening,Bijou.....

 

[bullet08]

Unless you’re talking 2016/2017..... just about everything C&D put out had mold (of course I’m exaggerating, but quite a few blends suffered mold issues :Red Flake, Autumn Evening,Bijou...

Drop in a bucket. I believe that issue has been addressed by C&D. How much pipe tobacco has been produced, and that one bad year hit that one blending house?

 

[cosmicfolklore]

Could you have a bad batch? Sure. Is this a bad batch? Not sure. Chicken manure, pig manure, and cow patties come up often in C&D discussions. It could be the burley, which is what I like about C&D stuff.
maybe Jeremy will show up and toss in a penny or two.

 

[Aomalley27]

Drop in a bucket. I believe that issue has been addressed by C&D. How much pipe tobacco has been produced, and that one bad year hit that one blending house?

You mean that one blending house that puts out over 300 blends? (C&D, GL Pease, Castello, Briarworks, etc)?

 

[bullet08]

You mean that one blending house that puts out over 300 blends? (C&D, GL Pease, Castello, Briarworks, etc)?

Yes.

 

[Chasing Embers]

Unless you’re talking 2016/2017..... just about everything C&D put out had mold (of course I’m exaggerating, but quite a few blends suffered mold issues :Red Flake, Autumn Evening,Bijou.....

Any of their blends with Red Virginias from the Summer of 2016 I will no touch.

 

[Aomalley27]

Any of their blends with Red Virginias from the Summer of 2016 I will no touch.

I just avoid almost all their stuff (except for a few Pease blends).
I do remember them also having mold problems in 2018, or 2019 with the Christmas offering and I think Opening night.

 

[Aomalley27]

But I will add, they always offered to replace moldy tins. I believe I swapped out for Maltese Falcon.

 

[hoosierpipeguy]

I've bought a lot of C&D and have caught one bad batch. I believe it was an 8 oz tin of Opening Night. Just because you found the smell disagreeable to you doesn't mean it was rotten or moldy. It was just bad for you. You can't score a winner every time.

 

[WildTurkeySurprise]

The tin is new. I don’t see ANY mold, and it doesn’t smell like mold. I tried “Joie de Vivre” in the search bar on here, and I didn’t find any mention of what I’m dealing with. According to that search, since 2016 the only person who has openly admitted to smoking it is me. Haha

 

[Johnkelly55]

Unless you’re talking 2016/2017..... just about everything C&D put out had mold (of course I’m exaggerating, but quite a few blends suffered mold issues :Red Flake, Autumn Evening,Bijou.....

Very interesting, but strange

 

[Aomalley27]

Very interesting, but strange

They had a few Pease blends with mold issues too. (They produce the blends, Greg is the blender) I believe it was limited to blends with Red Virginia.

 

[anotherbob]

I kind of find mold a good sign sometimes. It means there aren't any kind of preservatives used. Which while I don't mind them I'd rather get a tin replaced here or there given an option.

 

[craig61a]

So, did you contact C&D about it?

 

[anotherbob]

by the way one of my favorite C&D blends smells like cheese that has gone bad. Tuskegee Airman. It smells like feet and also tastes nothing like any other english blend I've tried. It tastes great and I always wonder if the room note is as nasty as the tin note.

 

[WildTurkeySurprise]

So, did you contact C&D about it?

Not yet. I jarred it and have left it alone for a few weeks now. I’ll open it up soon and try again. If it’s still funky, I’ll reach out to them.

 

[WildTurkeySurprise]

An update for this thread: I opened the jar. The smell has mellowed noticeably, so I packed a bowl. Not my favorite smoke, but it’s decent now. That original offensive smell is on my fingers now though lol. No bad batch here, by my judgement.

 

[wyfbane]

Glad that all worked out. I have yet to open a bad tin. I have had a lot of tobacco dry out on me due to my AD/HD.