Aro Baccys vs. Non-aros
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For me,it's pretty simple- I like my tobacco to taste like tobacco,not vanilla, or whatever. Thus I rarely smoke aros.
I think a lot of the prejudice is due to the saturation of the American market with aros that are loaded with
Have you tried Arrowhead from Paul's? Very good stuff. They list it as an aro on the website, but any flavoring is extremely light.
That should get you started.
I think a lot of the prejudice is due to the saturation of the American market with aros that are loaded with
, such as Captain Black, Borkum Riff, etc.
I saw the look on your face when you smoked your first bowl of Dunhill London Mixture. Try some Dunhill Early Morning Pipe. That might work for you, and is available in bulk.
Have you tried Arrowhead from Paul's? Very good stuff. They list it as an aro on the website, but any flavoring is extremely light.
That should get you started.
Yeah, what the drunk guy said about coffee.
By the way the ONLY aro I have smoked that actually tasted like it smelt was grousemoor. yum yum.
Isaac
By the way the ONLY aro I have smoked that actually tasted like it smelt was grousemoor. yum yum.
Isaac
I have no prejudice against aromatic tobaccos. I just don't smoke it anymore since I dearly love my 2015 and that is about all I smoke. I must have smoked a boat load of Blue Note (in fact I still have half a bag of it for a yearly trip down memory lane). I am a firm believer in the smoke what you like and if one likes aromatics or even if they wish to buy bulk cigarette tobacco to burn in a pipe, go for what floats your boat.
To my mind there's a difference between the processes that produce the 'condiment' tobaccos and the adding of a top flavour. Fermentation, stoving, smoking, etc, all develope what's already there. If you didn't start with tobacco leafs you'd end up with a different tasting result.
Continuing with the coffee analogy, it's the difference between roasting and sun drying beans, and compressing them into a pellet along with powdered milk(?) and chemicals to produce something that spits out a 'cappucino' on your home machine.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the casing is most commonly sugar water, added for the sake of moisturizing, and in the case of flakes to help glue them together. You could add a flavour with the casing (the bergamote in OGS anyone?) and I guess that's where you'd be treading the line that separates a straight tobacco from an aro.
I feel there's a difference between something that merely has a casing vs something with a top note, especially when that top note heads into flavours that'd be impossible to develope in a tobacco.
To anyone but me, this opinion should mean nothing though. I got into this trying to answer the OP.
(although my post may not reflect it, today I'm posting sober)
For sure. That was meant more to address "I don't like added flavorings." Well.... Latakia is literally - physically adding a flavoring to the tobacco, so I'll still argue it's no different theoretically than casing.
The whole point is - it doesn't matter. It just really doesn't. Anyone who has "animosity" toward something that doesn't suit their tastes is wasting emotion. Solving that problem is as simple as not smoking it.
I, for one, don't understand why anyone would spend more than $15 on a pipe made of wood when the folks in Missouri devised the perfect pipe 140 year ago and practically give them away for free. But I don't have animosity towards briar :D
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Pipesmokingtom,
You seem angry and upset. Relax my friend. Latakia is flavored with real smoke, not sweet, wet, chemical additives containing great amounts of propylene glycol. Perique's flavor is due to fermentation of the tobacco. Casing means a leaf is drenched in additives, whereas a Top application is just a spritz and usually burns off quickly. It really comes down to semantics, one could say there are aros, semi-aros, semi-naturals and full naturals. I don't think any less of a person who smokes aros, in fact I love the aroma. For me the aroma does not translate into flavor, in fact they taste quite badly to me. Smoke what you like, my friend, and in whatever vessel which you desire. BTW, I know of a good doctor who could prescribe a good benzodiazepine (Valium, Lorazepam, Xanax)for you. :P
You seem angry and upset. Relax my friend. Latakia is flavored with real smoke, not sweet, wet, chemical additives containing great amounts of propylene glycol. Perique's flavor is due to fermentation of the tobacco. Casing means a leaf is drenched in additives, whereas a Top application is just a spritz and usually burns off quickly. It really comes down to semantics, one could say there are aros, semi-aros, semi-naturals and full naturals. I don't think any less of a person who smokes aros, in fact I love the aroma. For me the aroma does not translate into flavor, in fact they taste quite badly to me. Smoke what you like, my friend, and in whatever vessel which you desire. BTW, I know of a good doctor who could prescribe a good benzodiazepine (Valium, Lorazepam, Xanax)for you. :P
Hahaha, I appreciate your concern! I'm not angry. Upset - sometimes. We make too big a deal about everything. I'm well aware of all those differences and was really just pointing out that it just doesn't matter. In addressing the OP's point - anyone with animosity toward something that doesn't really concern them makes them a wiener!
Haha right! I for some reason felt the need to stick up for people who get bashed by uppity types who like to feel like they're "better than." I realize people can stick up for themselves. Sorry for being such a blowhard.
I suspect that the prejudice is based on drug-store tobaccos that are soaked with preservatives, humidificants, and flavorings. One I used to smoke was Paladin Black Cherry. It had a wonderful room note and the girls liked it, so at that age, I didn't care about the goop or anything else.
While I now prefer other styles, e.g., English, Balkan, VaPers, VaBurs, cigar leaf - even single leaf blends, I strive to overcome prejudice and remain open minded. I was introduced to a couple of aromatics in our tobacco crawls that I wouldn't have picked on my own that are now in my regular rotation. I smoke Russ Oullett's Classic Burley Kake serveral times a week and I've become quite fond of Autumn Evening. I also enjoy the occasional bowl of IQ. While TobaccoReviews.com doesn't classifies, Samuel Gawiths Luxury Navy Flake as a Va/Lat, it has a light rum casing. To some, that makes it an aromatic. I call it delicious.
Going back to food analogies, while I enjoy my steak and potatoes (English/Balkans), I also enjoy the occasional dessert - (aromatics).
Finally, I suggest that we smoke what we like, and keep criticisms of other people's tastes to ourselves. MHO
While I now prefer other styles, e.g., English, Balkan, VaPers, VaBurs, cigar leaf - even single leaf blends, I strive to overcome prejudice and remain open minded. I was introduced to a couple of aromatics in our tobacco crawls that I wouldn't have picked on my own that are now in my regular rotation. I smoke Russ Oullett's Classic Burley Kake serveral times a week and I've become quite fond of Autumn Evening. I also enjoy the occasional bowl of IQ. While TobaccoReviews.com doesn't classifies, Samuel Gawiths Luxury Navy Flake as a Va/Lat, it has a light rum casing. To some, that makes it an aromatic. I call it delicious.
Going back to food analogies, while I enjoy my steak and potatoes (English/Balkans), I also enjoy the occasional dessert - (aromatics).
Finally, I suggest that we smoke what we like, and keep criticisms of other people's tastes to ourselves. MHO
I had a little vacation time so I spent almost a week in Prague, taking in the culture and the museums. And of course, since taking up the pipe, it's always a goal to find some strange new tobacco. It's hard to find non aromatics down there though, most of them have some kind of scented casing or topping.
I ran into an american and he and I found a shard of the past on the outskirts of Prague, a bar that probably looked the same during the 70's as it does today. All worn linoleum flooring, tiled walls, long benches and wood panelling. There was a group of ten grey hairs in a corner sucking down cigarettes, several guys with eastern block mullets and work pants, and it was Pilsner Urquel and Zatec on tap.
I'm only a couple of days back from it but I'm already nostalgic. I loved how people would look strangely at you when you asked if you could smoke. The owner of a pipe store seemed on the verge of saying 'yes, of course you idiot'. Unfortunately, next year new smoking laws are coming into play in the CR and it wont be allowed in restaurants and bars anymore. I'm curious about how the mullets and the grey hairs will react to that.
I ran into an american and he and I found a shard of the past on the outskirts of Prague, a bar that probably looked the same during the 70's as it does today. All worn linoleum flooring, tiled walls, long benches and wood panelling. There was a group of ten grey hairs in a corner sucking down cigarettes, several guys with eastern block mullets and work pants, and it was Pilsner Urquel and Zatec on tap.
I'm only a couple of days back from it but I'm already nostalgic. I loved how people would look strangely at you when you asked if you could smoke. The owner of a pipe store seemed on the verge of saying 'yes, of course you idiot'. Unfortunately, next year new smoking laws are coming into play in the CR and it wont be allowed in restaurants and bars anymore. I'm curious about how the mullets and the grey hairs will react to that.
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