Well I have had two bowls of the new Carolina Red Flake in two different pipes. First in a Moretti Morta shape 55 with the fold and stuff method after sitting out for about three hours. Second in a Ashton Taylor Dublin fresh from the tin. Sorry to say I did not enjoy either bowl. I found it boring, bland, and one dimensional with nothing to look forward to. I will take the rest of the tin, rub it out and add perique to give it some depth.