Since my hernia surgery I'm very uncomfortable wearing a belt. Sweatpants for me. If people want to judge me, so be it.
Are We Too Casual?
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I'm mostly a lurker on pipe forums, but I've been doing that for a while and I've noticed that this is a thread that crops up with some regularity. It could be summarized as "the rest of the world doesn't care what I think of it and this is wrong."
Conversely, another thread that tends to repeat could be summarized as "I'm a crotchety pipe-smoker who therefore does what he wants and doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks of ME, and this is as it should be."
I sense disparity.
Conversely, another thread that tends to repeat could be summarized as "I'm a crotchety pipe-smoker who therefore does what he wants and doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks of ME, and this is as it should be."
I sense disparity.
I dress neatly but I've never nor will ever own a suit. Too fake and I don't trust people wearing them. Politeness means more to me though than appearance.
Not in the Midwest. We had our annual employee gathering 3 weeks ago and out of about 26 or so guys 4 wore their ball caps throughout the evening in a nice dining room at a nice event. No hats on the women. Dress ran the gamut from casual to jacket and tie and was expected and no big deal, but I had to bite my lip on the hats.
Having said that, it’s Friday tomorrow and I’ll be in jeans and a flannel shirt for the morning at work - taking the afternoon off for a funeral (will dress for that) then jeans and flannels until Tuesday!
I love people who channel their own personal Bill Hicks. Vent on!
I can't tell if you're flipping the bird here or not. I'm going to assume possibly.
Also, you are missing the cover of your remote's battery compartment, and it is playing hell with my OCD. That is all.
In the words of the late Frank Zappa, "You are what you is."
He said lots of other things as well, such as "Wristwatch, Crisco!" and other similarly profound truths.
I imagine one day I’ll transition to suspenders. My dad has. A nice set of suspenders shouldn’t be overlooked!
Me too. Thanks for pointing that out. I won't be able to sleep tonight. I'll be thinking about those batteries popping out.
I have a problem with high school and college/university children being allowed a voice in the operation of the school. They are there to learn and not, to opine. Or, to be propagandized for that matter. Too many kids are being harmed when their nascent ideas are given weight.
I think one of my first life lessons from my father was when I was 6 years old. I was playing rugby and we had our warm up and then ran on the field. My father shouted loudly and ordered me back to him, I returned. He bent down and pulled up my socks and tucked my football jersey into my shorts. He looked at me and said “you may not be the best footballer but you might as well look like you are”. From that day forward I have always had my shirt tucked in and socks up, even if I’m covered in cow shit and flies.
I still use manners and call most older men “sir”’ and most women over 35/40 “ma’am.” I’ve been told by more than one woman (sometimes quite vehemently) to not do so.
Makes me sad to see things like this that make life meaningful get flippantly discarded. Taken to its logical conclusion, people won’t like the ultimate alternative when no manners exist anymore.
When I go out and about, I see people everywhere in bed clothes. Walmart is the worst. Not long ago I was in my local Walmart Supercenter and some fellow in bed clothes was actually smoking pot while he shopped. Absolute lunacy.
I went to get a pizza recently at my local Little Caesar’s. All the employees looked like weekly bathing was optional. I walked out.
The worst (and very common) reply to a ‘thank you’ these days: “no problem.”
Makes me sad to see things like this that make life meaningful get flippantly discarded. Taken to its logical conclusion, people won’t like the ultimate alternative when no manners exist anymore.
When I go out and about, I see people everywhere in bed clothes. Walmart is the worst. Not long ago I was in my local Walmart Supercenter and some fellow in bed clothes was actually smoking pot while he shopped. Absolute lunacy.
I went to get a pizza recently at my local Little Caesar’s. All the employees looked like weekly bathing was optional. I walked out.
The worst (and very common) reply to a ‘thank you’ these days: “no problem.”
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Tried that. Either you need to sew buttons onto all your pants, or deal with those clips that are always slipping off. No thanks.
I can't imagine being bothered by another person's choice of attire or how they present themselves. It doesn't affect me in the slightest. Maybe I'm just not as thin-skinned as some.
Maybe if retail employees were actually paid enough to live on, they'd give a damn and show up to work looking presentable.
Maybe if retail employees were actually paid enough to live on, they'd give a damn and show up to work looking presentable.
In his song A Country Boy Can Survive Hank Williams, Jr. once sang, in part:
"We say grace, and we say ma'am
"If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn..."
To which I say Amen!
"We say grace, and we say ma'am
"If you ain't into that, we don't give a damn..."
To which I say Amen!
Or, perhaps, if employees actually gave a damn and showed up to work (on-time and) looking presentable, they just might earn enough to live on. It seems to me this can cut both ways.
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They were somewhat anachronistic even 30+ years ago when I started wearing them with what was then work attire. Will wear them with the suit I’m having made for my daughter’s wedding this summer - I always thought they were cool but came to understand the comfort aspect vs. “accessory”. Then I discovered how great they are for hunting pants vs. a belt, especially waterproof bottoms I’ll wear over jeans or trousers that always slide down my butt if they have a drawstring - hate walking miles and hitching up all the time.
This thread reminds me why I spend time at the Fedora Lounge forum. That place is a sense of calm for me
The masking and “social distancing” of the plandemic succeeded at their designed intent of depersonalizing individuals and their interactions.
Masses are easier to bamboozle when they have been trained to fear contact with fellows.
It’s gotten better, but common consideration, communication, respect and pleasantries have suffered.
I’m afraid the idea that pajamas are ok out and about is here to stay, especially when you see teachers and students dressed as such.
I’m pretty sure we’re at the “weak men make bad times” part of the cycle, and the deck is stacking against those that would rise up as strong men to make good times…
Masses are easier to bamboozle when they have been trained to fear contact with fellows.
It’s gotten better, but common consideration, communication, respect and pleasantries have suffered.
I’m afraid the idea that pajamas are ok out and about is here to stay, especially when you see teachers and students dressed as such.
I’m pretty sure we’re at the “weak men make bad times” part of the cycle, and the deck is stacking against those that would rise up as strong men to make good times…
I am younger than the average poster here, but am surprised at the disdain for certain responses to 'thank you'. I've used all sorts of replies never realized that some were frowned upon. To me it would seem that the tone and body language would have much more significant impact on whether I come back with a 'no problem', 'of course', 'anytime, brother', or 'your welcome'
I wonder how many people I've pissed off
I wonder how many people I've pissed off
Man, I don't like being that guy. There's the old trope of each new generation driving the older one crazy..
I've been involved in the service industry for going on 13 years now (in succession) (there were a couple restaurant jobs in my teens too). I've witnessed a drastic change in the personnel in that time AND a shift in the attitudes of corporate management. It starts at the top.
A couple weeks ago I was training a couple new faces for the company. One young man wasn't devoting enough attention to detail so I stopped him and showed him how to do a process correctly.
He said the end result is basically the same and his way is quicker.
I didn't mind explaining and illustrating precisely how and why the correct way is the correct way. He agreed with me in the end.
Same guy this week tried to skip out before detailing his work area (cleaning up). When I stopped him he was kind enough to remind me "This isn't his long term career, just a job during school".
I politely reminded him that integrity doesn't begin with his career. It's a habit that needs to be practiced.
Kids these days.
I've been involved in the service industry for going on 13 years now (in succession) (there were a couple restaurant jobs in my teens too). I've witnessed a drastic change in the personnel in that time AND a shift in the attitudes of corporate management. It starts at the top.
A couple weeks ago I was training a couple new faces for the company. One young man wasn't devoting enough attention to detail so I stopped him and showed him how to do a process correctly.
He said the end result is basically the same and his way is quicker.
I didn't mind explaining and illustrating precisely how and why the correct way is the correct way. He agreed with me in the end.
Same guy this week tried to skip out before detailing his work area (cleaning up). When I stopped him he was kind enough to remind me "This isn't his long term career, just a job during school".
I politely reminded him that integrity doesn't begin with his career. It's a habit that needs to be practiced.
Kids these days.
Show up on time, in uniform, and they pay you for it. Stay off the phone, produce profits or benefits to the company, and you might get a raise or promotion.
This is the perfect time for 20 - 40 year olds with drive to destroy the competition. Out working others while studying my trade and honing skills has helped me get an advantage over others and put me where I am today.
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