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AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
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Clearly not marketing this to the every day user ... but at least $3, 499 isn't $3,500 ...

Their new VR headset, great if it was $250 I would probably get one to check it out, if it was $350 I'm need a damn good reason but there's no way in hell at this price. I'm assuming that it will end up like phones where you buy one and just pay for it monthly (not on a credit card but through the company you get it from, much like phones and watches today).

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AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
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As if the iphone hasnt already dissociated many from reality, apple now invests in VR
They've been working on this since at least 2015 if not earlier. I have have no issue with cool VR games, my issue is it cost more than a top of the line personal computer.

Then again I'm one of those people that go to the store or to the beach and leave my phone at home, i made it through most of my life without being tied to a phone and internet and I appreciate the time in the real world without people being able to beacon me at their the drop of a dime.
 
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sham

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May 20, 2022
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They've been working on this since at least 2015 if not earlier. I have have no issue with cool VR games, my issue is it cost more than a top of the line personal computer.

Then again I'm one of those people that go to the store or to the beach and leave my phone at home, i made it through most of my life without being tied to a phone and internet and I appreciate the time in the real world without people being able to beacon me at their the drop of a dime.
I dont have any issues with VR games either, seems like a logical medium for gaming at some point. I kinda worry about all the lifestyle, productivity, and media apps in VR though, I really dont want to see VR be the medium of every day mundane tasks.
 
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Clearly not marketing this to the every day user ... but at least $3, 499 isn't $3,500 ...

Their new VR headset, great if it was $250 I would probably get one to check it out, if it was $350 I'm need a damn good reason but there's no way in hell at this price. I'm assuming that it will end up like phones where you buy one and just pay for it monthly (not on a credit card but through the company you get it from, much like phones and watches today).

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dunnyboy

Lifer
Jul 6, 2018
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I had a look at the video Apple put out about the new Vision Pro. I think it's incredible. It's not really attempting to compete with reality, it's really competing with the television and with monitors—and it's beautiful. Yes, the price is hight but, If I were single, I would get this headset instead of a television for watching TV, movies, FaceTiming, etc. It easily competes in price with the big OLED televisions and large monitors. I don't game but this has to be an excellent platform for that. One downside is that it might get uncomfortable wearing a headset for more than an hour or so and, of course, you can't share it with another person to watch a movie, etc.
 

sablebrush52

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I had a look at the video Apple put out about the new Vision Pro. I think it's incredible. It's not really attempting to compete with reality, it's really competing with the television and with monitors—and it's beautiful. Yes, the price is hight but, If I were single, I would get this headset instead of a television for watching TV, movies, FaceTiming, etc. It easily competes in price with the big OLED televisions and large monitors. I don't game but this has to be an excellent platform for that. One downside is that it might get uncomfortable wearing a headset for more than an hour or so and, of course, you can't share it with another person to watch a movie, etc.
New tech is always expensive at the beginning and eventually the price comes down. My first workstation ran me close to $35,000 by the time I'd maxed it's capabilities. 16mb RAM chips were $720 each, the monitor cost almost $4,000, disc storage was $2,000 per gigabyte, the Wacom graphic tablet was $3500, etc, etc. You could be ard pressed to fine a computer that limited on today's market.
But it paid for itself three times over in the first year, with kit rentals, and with jobs. Today a computer 100 time faster, with 10 times the ram, 10 times the storage, etc, etc is a quarter the cost.
This tech will come way down as competitors enter the fray, and as development costs get covered. It's the trend setters who buy the first wave, and they're happy to spend the money.
 

AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
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New tech is always expensive at the beginning and eventually the price comes down. My first workstation ran me close to $35,000 by the time I'd maxed it's capabilities. 16mb RAM chips were $720 each, the monitor cost almost $4,000, disc storage was $2,000 per gigabyte, the Wacom graphic tablet was $3500, etc, etc. You could be ard pressed to fine a computer that limited on today's market.
But it paid for itself three times over in the first year, with kit rentals, and with jobs. Today a computer 100 time faster, with 10 times the ram, 10 times the storage, etc, etc is a quarter the cost.
This tech will come way down as competitors enter the fray, and as development costs get covered. It's the trend setters who buy the first wave, and they're happy to spend the money.
There is always an exception to the rule, new phones are still more expensive than their predecessors, while you can buy cheaper phones that don’t have all the bells and whistles, if you want the tip of the line you’re still going to pay too dollar for it, granted it goes back up to payment plans so ppl don’t always think about how much they are actually paying.

This is why i suspect the same thing will happen here, way more ppl will think “oh it’s only $125 a month on my phone bill through my carrier”, at least once the prices drop a bit.
 
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Elric

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Apple has become an interesting company, but they make it difficult to adopt their technologies. Their computers have run CPUs from Motorola --> PowerPC --> Intel. Now, in moving to their own M chips, you can't run virtual machines anymore so that's a non-starter for me. I don't subscribe to streaming music since I have a hefty mp3 collection and iTunes is a hot mess to manage music libraries. MacOS is technically Unix, which means it adheres to file location standards and definitions, but often doesn't honor changes to them. You have to navigate their GUI for most system changes. You have to turn their mice upside down to charge them. I will say their watches are pretty cool but I'm not part of their ecosystem due to the previous reasons. Now,...the world's most expensive ski goggles.
 
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AJL67

Lifer
May 26, 2022
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So for 3500 bucks .. wait no that's 3,499, I'd hate to be reported for misinformation, you get an entire 2 hour battery life! So the "you could see experience live concerts or sporting events in your living room like never before", I'm sorry how many sporting events or concerts are less than 2 hours?
 

mso489

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Feb 21, 2013
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Does it matter (maybe not) that people wearing these devices look like patients in a mental health ward to people not viewing the digital program?

People can't even regularly and dependably suss out the reality before their naked eyes. Do we really need to confuse them further?

I think these devices have uses for certain purposes. Maybe pilot training or in training for certain kinds of high risk work, to walk people through the perils before they confront the actual situations.

But do we really want to be flailing through "virtual" tennis games, war zones, chess matches, and fantasy games?

We're already verging on screen addiction. People are harming themselves under the influence of sick people online.

The price will go down to about half of this cost. I hope that's still way too expensive.