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hfdpipe

Might Stick Around
Oct 28, 2010
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CT
Two Historic Downtown Hartford Stores Closing
By JANICE PODSADA, jpodsada@courant.com
The Hartford Courant
12:48 PM EST, January 14, 2011
Two longtime businesses in downtown Hartford, The Tobacco Shop at 55 Asylum St. and O. F. Stengelin Cutlery on Old Bank Lane, will close in March. The stores' owners say they're quitting business because they can't afford a stiff rent increase by the building's owner, Grunberg Management LLC.
The Tobacco Shop, a smoky Hartford oasis for pipe and cigar smokers that was founded in 1920, will close March 31, owner Jim DeLisle said.
"It's a substantial increase," DeLisle said, though he wouldn't say how much the rent was going up. The Tobacco shop shop sells pipes, cigars and related accessories. Patrons are allowed to smoke inside the store. DeLisle said he was notified of the rent hike in late November and given about 30 days to respond.
"If I had more time, I could have offered the store for sale," said DeLisle, who began working part-time at the tobacco store in 1962, when he was a high school student. DeLisle's father, Leo DeLisle owned the cigar store having purchased it in 1958 from its original owner.
Next door to the Tobacco Shop on Old Bank Lane, O.F. Stengelin Cutlery, a business that dates to 1898, is also closing.
Owner Jack Swayner said he can't afford the rent increase on his small 700 square foot retail space. The store sells and sharpens cutlery and knives.
Grunberg Management has been contacted by the Courant. A representative of the company said someone would comment later.
Other building tenants are also facing rent hikes, but did not want to comment because they are still negotiating with Grunberg Management.
read this today,cool place,only been there a handful of times, but to be forced to close due to a rent hike, just sucks. The way Hartford is, I doubt the space will be filled quickly after it is vacated.

 
Jan 3, 2011
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Is there not a chance of relocation? I'm unfamiliar with (I'm assuming)Connecticut's policies? This seems very unfortunate if both or either store is going out of business due to rent hikes.

 

pstlpkr

Lifer
Dec 14, 2009
9,694
31
Birmingham, AL
A similar rent hike happened to a friend of mine. The idea was to drive him out. I believe his rent was raised so the "Chain Store" in the adjacent property could absorb the space. His solution. Buy his own property, and establish a land mark.
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hfdpipe

Might Stick Around
Oct 28, 2010
55
0
CT
I would imagine, trying to get a pipe store going at another location would be a pain in the ass.Connecticut is pretty tough on the smoking culture, a Hookah application was just shot down the other day.

Seems like lots of old timers just lose the energy to fight on, and cash in their chips, and I dont blame them. Between Laws, Taxes,and increasing rent it makes little sense as a business model in an ever increasing hostile environment.

I quit tobacco (cigs and chew) for 5 years , so by the time I started pipe smoking I was out of the Hartford area, but if I was still there this place wold have been my local stop for my baccy needs.

 

hfdpipe

Might Stick Around
Oct 28, 2010
55
0
CT
Lawrence, I think I actually heard pipemaker Trever Talbert mention him as a dealer on the old toby podcast, thats probably how I went to his site. Thanks for the other podcast link, I will have to give that a listen

 

hobie1dog

Lifer
Jun 5, 2010
6,888
236
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Cornelius, NC
I don't understand the logic behind this, but then again most of the people I know who own businesses are not the smartest people either...they are just human I guess. The local strip shopping center last year doubled their rent,,,yep, doubled, so half the tenants shut down their stores, and a year later, all those places are still empty. Income or no income...I don't get it. :crazy:

 

collin

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 29, 2010
881
2
Oklahoma
Lawrence,....after mentioning your friend and that quaint little B&M, I checked out the websight, got on the phone and talked to Skip for about 20 minutes, (he said to tell you "hello")! Here's the kicker, I just placed a bulk order of some tobacco,....well....I'll PM you. Thanks!

 

yachtexplorer

Starting to Get Obsessed
Apr 15, 2010
168
27
Wherever the boat is moored
A sad day. I grew up in West Harford and bought many a tin of Balkan Sobranie and Capstan back in the 1960s at those shops. I bought my first Pete and my first Dunhill there over 40 years ago. A crying shame.

 

hfdpipe

Might Stick Around
Oct 28, 2010
55
0
CT
I just read from the website

The Tobacco Shop in Hartford is closing it's doors as the owner Jim D. has finally decided to retire. He thanks you all for your support over the last 4 decades and bids you a Happy New Year and a wonderful life! You can browse the online store still but will be unable to orde
Looks like he's cashing it in.

 

cacooper

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jul 28, 2009
224
73
Parker, CO
Greetings all,
Sad to hear that another tobacconist has closed. This seems to be a daily occurrence.
As the former owner of a tobacco shop, Village Smoke Shop in Scottsdale, AZ, I know the feeling. I shut my doors in 2005, after a 10 year run. I leased a space ($3200 mo. base rent), and after ever increasing rent and CAM fees, encroaching competition, and an uncooperative landlord, I finally decided to throw in the towel and close. I did learn a few things, though.
In this day and age, in order to have a chance at success in the tobacco business, you absolutely MUST OWN THE BUILDING! Preferably a stand alone structure. You must control your overhead expenses. Under my lease agreement, my rent automatically increased 5% per year. Maintainence, taxes, and insurance increased also. If I didn't grow the business by at least 5% a year, I would lose money, and I did.
Almost all successful tobacconists existing today own the real estate. Iwan Ries, McCranies, Edward's and Stag here in CO. All own their buildings.
The days of renting a space in a strip mall are over. Most landlords won't rent to a tobacco shop anymore because of odor complaints from other tenants.
Add all of the above, along with ever increasing taxes, smoking bans, and the coming FDA regulations, and it's amazing anyone is in the business anymore. Sad days, indeed.
The internet is the only affordable place to conduct business anymore, tobacco wise. For now. But that will change too, sorry to say.
Sorry to be a turd in the punchbowl, but this is the reality of the tobacco business in these "enlightened" times.
Stock up, and stack deep. And patronize your local tobacconist, while you still can.
CACooper

 

strongirish

Can't Leave
Aug 20, 2010
343
1
Lake Conroe, TX
Makes me sad to see another one go! I have missed all the old shops in Houston that are no longer there. I miss the aromas and the atmosphere. It's not the same online.

 

bubbadreier

Lifer
Jul 30, 2010
3,011
4
Norman, Oklahoma
Wow this is a crying shame... I wish that it didn't have to happen, maybe we should all call up the owner and offer to buy his remaining stock of everything, start his retirement in the plus!

 

deyomatic

Lurker
Oct 27, 2010
23
0
This really sucks. I live in Wethersfield and tried to stop at the Tobacco Shop one day but the parking was a nightmare. I circled the block three times before giving up. There really aren't a lot of GOOD shops in CT that I know of, at least not for pipe related stuff.

 

cornguy

Starting to Get Obsessed
Jan 3, 2011
157
0
Deyomatic, you're right: it does suck.

I remember an old-time tobacco shop in the city where I grew up --many, many years ago. The shop was downtown on a busy street corner. There was meter-parking on the street but I guess it relied on walk-up business.

It's where I bought my first pipe and a pack of Cherry Blend.

The joint smelled great. It had all kinds of packaged tobacco and large glass jars of blends. And it sold newspapers from all over the country. And it had a soda fountain and served coffee and sandwiches. I used to go there every week to buy tobacco and read the headlines from the various papers.

It's long gone and really so is the downtown. No locally-owned department stores, clothing stores, drug stores or small shops. They're out of business or they were bought out and relocated in the mall.

I miss those days.

So every time a small tobacco shop bites the dust -- whether it's in Hartford or Denver -- we lose another slice of Americana.

Sure, we can buy our pipe tobacco online or get the drug store store blends at chain retailers, but it's not the same.

Not even close.

 
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