An Oddball Sasieni 2nd "HANDS" , Any Additional Info?

[pitchfork]

There's always a chance, but I doubt it in this instance because the word, hands, is in quotes. Sasieni used quotes for model names.

No, you must be right -- little chance that's a shop name, then.

 

[dmcmtk]

Just for fun, read comment 29 at the Sasieni article at Murder of Ravens by Robert Butcher, as sablebrush said, "...whatever turned a pence."
http://murderofravens.org/my-sasieni-pipe-article/

 

[ssjones]

Whatever happened to Stephen? Does anyone know what shop he worked at? (blog hasn't been updated since 2009)

 

[snagstangl]

so are the second's names we familiar with really the 3rds and fourths? Anyhow the stem is in perfect condition, not oxidized, I don't think the stem was cleaned either. It was a steal, and all can guess is that it because the leather on the front of the bowl is starting to fray.

 

[ssjones]

Another interesting Sasieni second went off this evening:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Berkeley-Club-London-Made-Tobacco-Pipe-/390948494876?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=PFxJlfv%252FZVyIkuJj3xxl4IRtpnI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
It's stamped 788, which would be the Sasieni Ashford shape.

 

[snagstangl]

I wondered if you were going to post that one as well. $50 is way more reasonable for what this one is. I again opened the bidding on that one. but I didn't think I would get it and I didn't.

 

[jguss]

The CS&F was a shop pipe made for that particular tobacconist

Actually I believe CS&F was not a pipe shop per se, but a local Oakland department store now largely forgotten. The full name was Capwell Sullivan and Furth. CS&F was formed in May of 1929, hardly the most auspicious time to launch a business given the impending crash. It managed to thrive, however, lasting until the doors were finally closed about 1953.
All Sasieni pipes bearing the CS&F stamping must therefore date from some time within that 24 year span.

 

[ssjones]

Is there a list of Sasieni 2nd's? I have an odd, Shape 688 (Ashford) but the brand starts with a W, perhaps Winston?

 

[voorhees]

Windsor?
http://www.pipephil.eu/logos/en/logo-sasieni2.html

 

[dmcmtk]

I have an odd, Shape 688 (Ashford) but the brand starts with a W, perhaps Winston?

Smooth? Sandblast? Other? Picture? I was just looking at a couple of my Windsor's, they both only have the two digit shape numbers. In the 1930's the Mayfair had the 6 prefix...

 

[ssjones]

I'll post some later tonight.

 

[snagstangl]

Windsor

 

[ssjones]

Wrexham

I apologize for the tease! The pipe is soaking at the moment, pictures to come.
Wow, what a list of only "W" named Sasieni 2nd's -

Worchester

Wingate

Windmere

Wimbledon

Wild Honey

Westmoreland

Wellington
I think it is one of the last two. Part of the problem is that a Sterling band was added, partially obscuring the worn name.

Waverly

Waterloo

 

[dmcmtk]

I want to see the rustication.

 

[ssjones]

Here you go.
I can discern a WIN, so I conclude that it must be a Wingate.
Oddly, the Sterling band was added, but under magnification, I see no signs of any cracks.



I'll finish it later tonight or tomorrow and start a separate thread on the pipe.

 

[dmcmtk]

Now we're getting somewhere. I'm reading WIN??O..., but more importantly, the rustication looks like some of the experiments Sasieni was trying out in the late 1930's ~ 1950 for the "seconds" before settling on the finish seen on the Old England pipes. Al, if you decide to sell that pipe, let me know!