Am I Flaky over Flake Cut?

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cosmicfolklore

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Aug 9, 2013
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I just like the flexibility and choices you get with flakes. The majority of the time, I cube cut an entire tin or jar at a time. You get an easier to load cube cut, along with that slower savoring burn of flake. But, every blue moon, I’ll fold and stuff, mostly to remind myself why I don’t like folding and stuffing.

Find what works for you.
 

Jaylotw

Lifer
Mar 13, 2020
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It took me a while to understand flakes. Now I love them. I'm a fold n stuffer, but I also add a top layer of finely rubbed stuff on top, or just rub the top of the flake as it sits in the bowl, as kindling to get things rolling. I only dry FVF and other Gawith flakes, everything else I've found to be at a fine moisture level for smoking right out of the tin.

I find flakes are less work than ribbon cuts. You just grab a flake, roll it, fold it, maybe tear a little off, and screw it into the bowl. Tease the top a little to loosen it up to take the flame, and done. Five seconds.
 

Jaylotw

Lifer
Mar 13, 2020
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NE Ohio
Jay- I get that flakes are easy for you- but easier than stuffing nicely dried ribbon or shag into the bowl?
Regardless, It's all good!
I think so, at least when I'm filling a pipe for the ride into work at 5am. Just roll it up and plop it in, tease the top a little to loosen and I'm all set! No pinching, dropping ribbons on the carpet, trying to get a perfect fill. Just pop in a flake and go.
 

Duck

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It only takes me seconds to rub a flake down to ribbon, though I rarely want it rubbed that fine. So, convenience is a minimal tradeoff for the versatility of flake. That said, I've smoked a lot of flake in my time, meaning I've had the practise to become proficient and confident. I think some folk just find flakes daunting until they get confident with them.
 
Jan 28, 2018
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I think you should do whatever works for you. I like my Flake dry enough to break or almost break when I fold it. Take a flake, fold it in half along the length. Then fold it the other way. Grab both ends, give it a very slight twist to loosen it up a bit. Gently push with slight twist into bowl until it bottoms out, push a bit more to expand it out but not too hard. If there's room left at the top, sprinkle some loose pieces to make lighting easy.

With some experience, you'll get a feel for how big the Flake needs to be to fit a specific bowl. Tear off a bit length wise for smaller bowls. If I chose too big, I pull some off/out when I stuff it in the bowl. Better too loose than too tight, you can fix it with tamping. What I pull off becomes ready rub for the last bowl or two from that tin.

All of what I described is done in ten seconds or less. The most important things are for the Flake to not be too moist and error on packing loose vs tight. You can fix too loose with some good tamping. The fix for too tight is the skinny pipe tool to loosen up the tobacco, empty the bowl and start over. I use this technique to pack and smoke three to five bowls of Flake per day, it has worked well for quite some time. Check the draw before you light. Occasionally, a piece of tobacco may obstruct the draught hole at the bottom of the bowl. Running a pipe cleaner all the way in and twisting usually clears the obstruction.

If your personal preference is to use Flake that is more moist, stuff looser to allow for expansion when the tobacco heats up. In my opinion, you'll enjoy more flavor, less hassle and avoid tongue bite from steam if you let it dry out more but to each their own.
 

krizzose

Lifer
Feb 13, 2013
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Ah i never rub them out, what i like to do is corkscrew a moist flake in the chamber, then carefully pull it out and let it dry as much as needed, then put it back in and light.

That’s an interesting technique. I’ll have to give it a try
 
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