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MRW

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I was visiting some older threads regarding tobacco aging and came across some discussions regarding cardboard tins with foil linings. Mentioned was how these are not suitable for long term storage. This made me visit my cellar (box in the coat closet) and check my stash. I am unclear what is meant by the cardboard description. Pasted below is a 2016 tin of Mississippi River. Is this what is meant by "cardboard tin with foil lining"? I have other 2016 vintages of Hal O' The Wind and Peter Heinrich Golden Sliced, as well as several Christmas Cheer tins. Should each of these be considered inferior for long term storage/aging?

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krizzose

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McClelland tins are all metal, not cardboard, and should be just fine for extended aging if still sealed.

I’ve never seen a cardboard Rattray’s tin either, but the oldest one I’ve had was from 2010, so not sure about older tins.
 

Grangerous

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I have 32 Granger tins cellared. Only the bottom and top pull tabs are metal; the tub itself is entirely cardboard. I have absolutely no intention of ever jarring these. Every one I’ve ever cracked is perfect moisture content.

I was convinced to Mason Jar all of my one pound bags of Pegasus, which came in thick plastic ziplock bags —and which I thought would store perfectly fine. But I caught hell from the forum for such a blasphemous thought.

I really think we overthink things.
 

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I have 32 Granger tins cellared. Only the bottom and top pull tabs are metal; the tub itself is entirely cardboard. I have absolutely no intention of ever jarring these. Every one I’ve ever cracked is perfect moisture content.

I was convinced to Mason Jar all of my one pound bags of Pegasus, which came in thick plastic ziplock bags —and which I thought would store perfectly fine. But I caught hell from the forum for such a blasphemous thought.

I really think we overthink things.
32! Man I'm way behind in my Carter hall haul!
 
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clynch

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I have 32 Granger tins cellared. Only the bottom and top pull tabs are metal; the tub itself is entirely cardboard. I have absolutely no intention of ever jarring these. Every one I’ve ever cracked is perfect moisture content.

I was convinced to Mason Jar all of my one pound bags of Pegasus, which came in thick plastic ziplock bags —and which I thought would store perfectly fine. But I caught hell from the forum for such a blasphemous thought.

I really think we overthink things.
Granger has been on my todo list. If you have 32 of them, I guess I need to try it out. Would you consider Granger to give a typical good Burley or do you like it for other reasons?
 
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Grangerous

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32! Man I'm way behind in my Carter hall haul!

It’s approximately 24 lbs and by my calculation will permit one bowl per day for 15 years. Recently, I’m motivated by the fact that the 12 ounce tubs are no longer being produced and when they’re gone they’re gone. So at $24.99 per 12 ounce tub vs $18.99 for the new 7 ounce tub, it makes sense to get them while I still can. I may order another 8 and consider my cellar Grangerfull. Is that a word?

I have 6 pounds of Pegasus. It sounds like a lot, but we all want our cellars to last. Any blend can be here today and gone tomorrow.

Carter Hall has increased in price. It’s far more popular than Granger.
 

Grangerous

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Granger has been on my todo list. If you have 32 of them, I guess I need to try it out. Would you consider Granger to give a typical good Burley or do you like it for other reasons?

It just clicks with me. It’s the mildest, tastiest, easy loading and burning tobacco I’ve ever experienced. It’s all burley but has a gentle molasses sweetness and a creamy mouth feel. Very clean, pipey room note that doesn’t linger.

Many say it bites them. To me it’s so mild I have to be careful not to just breathe it in when clenching.

I enjoy Pegasus too but it’s young burley and harsh in comparison. Not saying Pegasus is harsh, but in comparison to how mellow Granger is… it’s harsh. I’m aging quite a bit of Pegasus. I hear it mellows considerably with age.

Buy an ounce in case you find it’s not for you. I know I talk it up but that’s me. — I don’t want it to go out of production or run out. I’m sleeping better now that I’ve built a cellar.
 

clynch

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It just clicks with me. It’s the mildest, tastiest, easy loading and burning tobacco I’ve ever experienced. It’s all burley but has a gentle molasses sweetness and a creamy mouth feel. Very clean, pipey room note that doesn’t linger.

Many say it bites them. To me it’s so mild I have to be careful not to just breathe it in when clenching.

I enjoy Pegasus too but it’s young burley and harsh in comparison. Not saying Pegasus is harsh, but in comparison to how mellow Granger is… it’s harsh. I’m aging quite a bit of Pegasus. I hear it mellows considerably with age.

Buy an ounce in case you find it’s not for you. I know I talk it up but that’s me. — I don’t want it to go out of production or run out. I’m sleeping better now that I’ve built a cellar.
Thanks, I'll get a can.
 
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btp79

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All of my 100g Rattrays have been cardboard, 50g's all metal. At some point I'll get around to transferring the 100g cans to mylar, but it's not pressing.
 

renfield

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Lined cardboard “tins” are fine for a few years, in my experience. Personally I don’t trust them further out than that. Jars are cheap insurance.
 

Grangerous

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OK Mr. MRW. We're both in for a tin of Granger. I suppose we'll need to make a new Granger thread so we can both evaluate it. Ahhhh, life in the fast lane.

You both are going to get me tossed off the forum. I think ? I’d better lay low for awhile. — Give my thumbs a rest. ☝️?