Age of These Cobs?

[greggors]

For the life of me, I don't remember how old these cobs are. Bought them from a member here.
Anyone able to help with dating these cobs?

I'm tempted to just smoke them regardless.

 

[anotherbob]

love them. I still think the reed stem are just the best. I broke my last two and need to get another one as well as a tamper I lost that too.

 

[greggors]

Agreed i love the look of them. Just not sure if i should just smoke them or leave them as show peices if they are as old as i think they were

 

[anotherbob]

Agreed i love the look of them. Just not sure if i should just smoke them or leave them as show peices if they are as old as i think they were

I'd leave them. Not sure if they're worth any real cash. I know they're special in my opinion. I'd buy new cobs Old Dominion style and just dig the old ones with my eyes.

 

[kcghost]

NIce cobs but I haven't any idea how old they are.

 

[greggors]

I'd leave them. Not sure if they're worth any real cash. I know they're special in my opinion. I'd buy new cobs Old Dominion style and just dig the old ones with my eyes.

Not worried if they are worth cash. Just my curiousity how old they are. Seen a date on the one but guessing thats probably just when the company was founded. But yea buying new is prob best. Gives an excuse to feed my PAD ol

 

[anotherbob]

Not worried if they are worth cash. Just my curiousity how old they are. Seen a date on the one but guessing thats probably just when the company was founded. But yea buying new is prob best. Gives an excuse to feed my PAD ol

I bet you could find a window of when they were made and when the companies folded. But that's probably about it. Though I find it interesting that at one time you could get more then one type of cob.

 

[lonestar]

You most likely bought them from me, or bought them from someone who bought them from me ! I have a small collection of unsmoked cobs with these two labels on them, and sold a handful of them years ago.
These are late 1800's to very early 1900's pipes.
Detmold Pipeworks was bought out by Missouri Meerschaum in 1909, so any label with their name is going to date before that merger. MM continued with some of the Detmold shapes, but with their own labels from that time forward.
The 1898 date on the label was not long ago when the pipes were made !

 

[lonestar]

I bet you could find a window of when they were made and when the companies folded. But that's probably about it. Though I find it interesting that at one time you could get more then one type of cob.

H&B was the only major long term competition for Missouri Meerschaum. They made cob pipes from the late 1800's up until I believe the 1980's. But the St. Louis location was very early production for them. They later moved to Washington Missouri, literally like a block away from the MM factory. Eventually Missouri Meerschaum bought them out (they bought EVERY company that made cobs over the years). MM still produces some H&B shapes to this day, with their name on them. The Great Dane shapes started with H&B.

 

[lonestar]

As for their Value, when I sold these pipes there wasn't much of a collectors market for them so I probably didn't ask too much but I don't really remember.
If I decided to sell any of them today, I'd honestly probably ask like $200 each.
But that's also why I used to collect them (they were cheap!) and why I don't collect them any more (now they're not cheap!)

 

[greggors]

As for their Value, when I sold these pipes there wasn't much of a collectors market for them so I probably didn't ask too much but I don't really remember.
If I decided to sell any of them today, I'd honestly probably ask like $200 each.
But that's also why I used to collect them (they were cheap!) and why I don't collect them any more (now they're not cheap!)

Awesome!

You most likely bought them from me, or bought them from someone who bought them from me ! I have a small collection of unsmoked cobs with these two labels on them, and sold a handful of them years ago.
These are late 1800's to very early 1900's pipes.
Detmold Pipeworks was bought out by Missouri Meerschaum in 1909, so any label with their name is going to date before that merger. MM continued with some of the Detmold shapes, but with their own labels from that time forward.
The 1898 date on the label was not long ago when the pipes were made !

Awesome! Thank you! Yes most likely i got them from you. Would have bought them late 2011 early 2012. Im bloody horrible with names lol

 

[anotherbob]

H&B was the only major long term competition for Missouri Meerschaum. They made cob pipes from the late 1800's up until I believe the 1980's. But the St. Louis location was very early production for them. They later moved to Washington Missouri, literally like a block away from the MM factory. Eventually Missouri Meerschaum bought them out (they bought EVERY company that made cobs over the years). MM still produces some H&B shapes to this day, with their name on them. The Great Dane shapes started with H&B.

cool thanks for the info.

 

[jpmcwjr]

Great when your knowledgable seller shows up!

 

[greggors]

Great when your knowledgable seller shows up!

Agreed!

 

[AroEnglish]

H&B was the only major long term competition for Missouri Meerschaum. They made cob pipes from the late 1800's up until I believe the 1980's. But the St. Louis location was very early production for them. They later moved to Washington Missouri, literally like a block away from the MM factory. Eventually Missouri Meerschaum bought them out (they bought EVERY company that made cobs over the years). MM still produces some H&B shapes to this day, with their name on them. The Great Dane shapes started with H&B.

Does that include the Great Dane Egg?

 

[AJL67]

I'd say one of them is probably from about 1909 or so maybe a little before.

 

[lonestar]

Does that include the Great Dane Egg?

I believe so.
I'm not 100% sure if MM was making the shape for themselves before they bought out H&B, but H&B named the Series, including the Great Dane Egg. They were marketing it for a long time before MM used the name, from what I've seen.
The truth is, MM was always as conservative as possible in their lineup of shapes. When they made really cool looking cobs, it was really just because their competition was making cool stuff and they had to keep up. Once their competition was gone, well.... It's been a really boring lineup for a long time, until Phil Morgan took over and started branching out.
I have an H&B made really big Great Dane Egg on a wooden plaque, the way MM later marketed the big Freehands on a plaque. That pipes is probably from the 1970's and if I recall correctly it even says Great Dane Egg on the plaque.

 

[AroEnglish]

I believe so.
I'm not 100% sure if MM was making the shape for themselves before they bought out H&B, but H&B named the Series, including the Great Dane Egg. They were marketing it for a long time before MM used the name, from what I've seen.
The truth is, MM was always as conservative as possible in their lineup of shapes. When they made really cool looking cobs, it was really just because their competition was making cool stuff and they had to keep up. Once their competition was gone, well.... It's been a really boring lineup for a long time, until Phil Morgan took over and started branching out.
I have an H&B made really big Great Dane Egg on a wooden plaque, the way MM later marketed the big Freehands on a plaque. That pipes is probably from the 1970's and if I recall correctly it even says Great Dane Egg on the plaque.

Oh man, please post a photo! The Great Dane Egg is my favorite shape and I still miss it. Thankfully I still have one.

 

[lonestar]

Oh man, please post a photo! The Great Dane Egg is my favorite shape and I still miss it. Thankfully I still have one.

It's buried in a box somewhere. If I had time to dig it out I would ! Some day when I do though I'll try to post a pic