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Brad H

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Dec 17, 2024
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Ok, so perhaps today was a “not a break day”.
Went and smoked some MB Roll cake.same issues 🥲
Just sort of hard to be used to smoking a pipe, then having a cold hard break in it and stopping.
 

SmokingInTheWind

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Mar 24, 2024
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If it was me I’d lay off the pipe and make a doctor appointment. You don’t want to keel over from anaphylactic shock! You said dipping tobacco is no problem, only pipe smoking. It may be a stretch, and don’t be offended, but I gotta ask if your pipes are clean? Could a funky pipe cause a reaction? I don’t know, but maybe.
 
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Brad H

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If it was me I’d lay off the pipe and make a doctor appointment. You don’t want to keel over from anaphylactic shock! You said dipping tobacco is no problem, only pipe smoking. It may be a stretch, and don’t be offended, but I gotta ask if your pipes are clean? Could a funky pipe cause a reaction? I don’t know, but maybe.
I clean them after every smoke. Some people might say that’s overboard but a simple pipe cleaner and reaming the bowl after every smoke for me.
 

SmokingInTheWind

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I clean them after every smoke. Some people might say that’s overboard but a simple pipe cleaner and reaming the bowl after every smoke for me.
Yup, that is what I do. For cobs it is a paper towel in the bowl and a couple of pipe cleaners down the stem after every smoke. Then a monthly tune up with soapy water on the stems and alcohol in the shanks. For briar and meer it is water flush followed by paper towel and pipe cleaners after almost every smoke. Those get an occasional tune up.

I figured you were good. Just brainstorming. I feel for you. I miss my Scotch at the end of the day. I think giving up the pipe would be even harder for me.
 

huntertrw

Lifer
Jul 23, 2014
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I sold pharmaceuticals for a number of years, and one of the allergists that I called upon once told me that some of his patients were allergic to various substances from birth, while others did not develop any allergies until much later in life. Why? He stated that he earnestly wished that he could explain the phenomena, but simply could not. In summing-up he said, "I'd like to tell you that medicine is an exact science, but it isn't."
 
Aug 11, 2022
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A buddy of mine developed some kind of reaction to alcohol a few years ago. His face gets really flushed as soon as he starts. Fortunately, he wasn't drinking quite so much anymore, so it's not a big loss.
 

Brad H

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Dec 17, 2024
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Do tomatoes, potatoes, eggplant, or spicy foods mess you up?

They're all nightshades, and so is tobacco, might be worth looking into, can't let that cellar house full of tobacco go unsmoked for too long...
Nope. None of that gives me same reaction.

It’s just strangely acting up last monthish or so.
Hope it doesn’t last. A cellar like mine can’t go unsmoked.

(You don’t even want to know how many nice rare bourbons I had when I became allergic)
 
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Brad H

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Do you by chance have any sort of autoimmune disorder (Lupus, Fibromyalgia, Myasthenia Gravis, etc.)? If so, that may explain the growing list of items you are becoming overly sensitized to.
Autoimmune yes.
Which one, no idea. Docs been trying to figure that out for years.
Been tested for Lupus like 8 times now. Seems they always go back towards that.

Would never have thought to link those two things together.
 
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Epip Oc'Cabot

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Autoimmune yes.
Which one, no idea. Docs been trying to figure that out for years.
Been tested for Lupus like 8 times now. Seems they always go back towards that.

Would never have thought to link those two things together.
It is a potentially logical association. Autoimmune conditions result from an immune system response that is above normal where the immune cells will lose the ability to differentiate cells of the body as “self” and will perceive those cells as invader/infectious cells and attempt to destroy them. If you are becoming allergic to more and more things, it may be that your immune responses are too active and in the cases you mention, it is affecting your responses to both alcohol and tobacco. The clinician you are seeing related to your autoimmune condition may be a next step person to talk with about these symptoms.
 

BingBong

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Apr 26, 2024
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London UK
If it's autoimmune, get your Vitamin D levels up to the mark and go from there. I take a 4000IU + K2 cap every morning, all year round, because I'm immunocompromised even on a good day; Vit D turns out to have been incredibly useful. It switches on a whole bunch of useful healthy things. 150nmol is the blood level to strive for.
 

Briar Lee

Lifer
Sep 4, 2021
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Humansville Missouri
In advanced Western societies there has been an increase in allergies of all kinds in just my lifetime.

Ozark Americans born after World War Two like me can remember when every school lunch table had soft white bread and huge gallon size cans of USDA commodity peanut butter out for the children to free graze. Some of the children’s parents didn’t have the quarter for a lunch.

They also sold “extra” milk for two cents for white and three cents for chocolate, with a cup out in front of the milk full of pennies, like you see in stores today, except in theory those were loans.

If anyone had a peanut allergy or was lactose intolerant I suppose they’d have just died.

I was a lawyer before I read what an Epi Pen was. They came to market in 1983.


Since people have not changed, and will never change, since Eve tempted Adam, there has to be an explanation.

Consider the hygiene hypothesis

Hygiene hypothesis - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

My father, while we were out quail hunting, would find a place in the creek where the water was flowing and cup his hands and drink.

Since I’d been taught in school to not do that, plus I knew my mother would surely kill my father if I did and died of it, I didn’t drink from creeks.

It may be too many mothers demanding everything be sanitary for their precious children has produced susceptibility to allergens.

Another first world problem, those who drink from streams don’t worry about.:)
 
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JoburgB2

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It’s surprising to be allergic to alcohol (ethanol), is it not? Ethanol is a small molecule and typically does not trigger an immune response. However, some people may react to breakdown products like acetaldehyde or acetic acid, though this is still uncommon. In rare cases, the body may produce IgE antibodies to components in alcohol, leading to anaphylaxis. Or so says the Google on Bing.
 
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Brad H

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If it's autoimmune, get your Vitamin D levels up to the mark and go from there. I take a 4000IU + K2 cap every morning, all year round, because I'm immunocompromised even on a good day; Vit D turns out to have been incredibly useful. It switches on a whole bunch of useful healthy things. 150nmol is the blood level to strive for.
Yeah I been told to keep the vitamin D up.
Take 10k iu every other day. Supposed to take that amount maybe once a week.

It’s surprising to be allergic to alcohol (ethanol), is it not? Ethanol is a small molecule and typically does not trigger an immune response. However, some people may react to breakdown products like acetaldehyde or acetic acid, though this is still uncommon. In rare cases, the body may produce IgE antibodies to components in alcohol, leading to anaphylaxis. Or so says the Google on Bing.
Thought the same thing years ago when I had to look into it after looking at different ingredients. And it’s only when ingested. Alcohol on the skin is fine, but I don’t have it applied in large quantities or for long. Regardless of the alcohol problem I grew to accept it.

In regards to smoking pipes….. that’s where it comes to puzzle me more so now as it’s newer and I haven’t become accustomed to not smoking a pipe.