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bnichols23

Lifer
Mar 13, 2018
4,131
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Actually it's net *non*-neutrality. Need neutality was good, revocation of it is what gave ISPs, megacorps, cable providers, et al., the power to start throttling, tiering, etc.
Back to topic, no pipes if driving? Jeez flipping gawd, what a crock. Sheesh. People talk about *liberals* being the ones who want a nanny-/police state; I see more current admins than out-of-power types being the ones slamming the hatch on the individual while ignoring the money dudes. [stomping a rant before I get started -chuckle-]

 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,264
30,361
Carmel Valley, CA
"Yes, officer: I lit the pipe before I got in the car. It has stayed in my jaw the whole time while driving. My hands have not touched it." (But don't tell him you took a selfie video the whole time even if it proves your contention....)

 

josephcross

Part of the Furniture Now
Dec 30, 2015
963
94
My boss encourages browsing for tobacco during work breaks. I love being self-employed.

 

mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,650
I wish I'd been more "into" computers and digital devices when it was an expansive frontier full of bright future and open spaces. Now it is an overbuilt suburb with checks on every move you make. It was inevitable and has been coming for a long time, in increments. For the real computer jocks, you can still hack your way around and get what you want, but for most of us, it's a land of rules and restrictions. In case anyone cares to notice, a typewritten or handwritten letter has suddenly become a big thrill for most people, certainly for those who remember them from the past, but maybe more so for people who have never received one before. It' like, oh, I didn't know you could do that. Back to the future. Now even I can say, the net, it ain't what it used to be.

 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,184
15,037
The Arm of Orion
I think mechanically typed letters are now the best way to have a private conversation with someone who isn't in your same area. It's probably, for now, not cost effective for the nanny state to be opening envelopes and censoring their contents, Stasi style; of course, I'm not saying they can't or won't do it, but with the majority of people using digital media for convenience, their eyes are mostly focused on it as it's also easier to censor.
Prohibition on marijuana is ending, wheras prohibition on tobacco is just beginning

True, but the thing with pot is that its legalisation is mostly a political move, now being used as a means for the nanny powers that be to become ever more intrusive. In my city, the local university recently used the legalisation of pot as the 'tipping point' (the excuse, really) to go smoke-free and completely ban ALL tobacco products on campus (as well as marijuana products too), even if they're of the non-smoking kind. Regulations were just passed in Canada that allow police to randomly stop drivers and force them to undergo a breathalyser test (with saliva testing for THC coming soon) even if they're driving OK. I'm sure more examples can be found of the tyrannical trends in current governments.

 

mnewb1

Might Stick Around
May 9, 2018
70
31
sorry just reentered the discussion...I agree the topic is different from non-net neutrality...but my point is when an isp can control what content you can get, ( and I agree this will most likely just mean a higher fee to access popular content ) ultimately the ISP can decide what you should see or not see

 

bnichols23

Lifer
Mar 13, 2018
4,131
9,558
SC Piedmont
Yup, zway2trudat, mnewb.
Another completely ridiculous thing. Medicare is my primary insurance now, & Humana my secondary. Today I was going to humana.com for something completely different. (Being a huuuuuge healthcare company they're not just insurance.)
Last week, no prob. Today? "Blocked by VCOM policy." Why is that so unusual, you might ask?
Well you might, except for one small thing --
I work at a medical school.... :crazy:

 

datascalabash

Lurker
Aug 6, 2009
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Dear npod:
Data's Calabash here - when you mentioned that "my state just passed a hands-free driving law..." and then added in the same paragraph, that "...I have been told that it will also apply to pipe smoking since you cannot do that hands-free In the car..."
...just WHICH state do you live in, anyway?
In the Bay State (Massachusetts), a stiff law that ONLY restricts use of smartphones and cellphones for making calls and for TEXTING went into effect in 2017, but it seems that it's strictly limited to electronic devices, which I never use frequently, anyway; and ONLY when and while I'm parked somewhere, never while in motion with the car.
As for pipe smoking while in my car, the ONLY thing I'd ever do "behind the wheel" would usually be lighting up on a long car trip, and my briar would have to have been "first lit" in a rest area only. It's ONLY after I've charred all the leaf at the top of the bowlful that I'd even attempt to light-up while driving...and then ONLY with a one-hand-usable, slim-style refillable butane lighter, so at least one hand stays on the wheel at all times; as I know from experience that I'm not able to handle a larger-bodied, fluid-style pipe lighter (like my Zippo pipe lighter) with only one hand...that's ONLY for use in the rest area, and not out on the road while driving.
I'd also NEVER tolerate being "sheepled" by my state (or by anyONE) in any manner, for any reason...just look up the word "sheeple" in an online dictionary, and you'll find out just what I'm getting at.
I AM concerned about the recent legalization of cannabis (Ballot Question 4 in 2016's election) in the Bay State, though. As I'm SERIOUSLY allergic to anyone within my own "nose-shot" (to the point of involuntary "launching my lunch"...no kidding) from the stench of anyone polluting themselves with combustible cannabis of any sort, and indeed any ignorant "buttheaded" cigarette addicts nearby...as I'm strictly a natural pipe mixture and occasional handmade Dominican cigar (Olor leaf filler) enthusiast, AND follow those aforementioned reasonable, self-imposed rules on enjoying my own briars while driving, I seriously doubt that any harassment over being a "briar guy behind the wheel" would ever be a problem here. The MA state bears (yep, the old 1970s CB lingo for the kind with badges) are not much of a problem, especially if one just makes certain they're strapped-in (secondary seatbelt law in MA, NOT a primary one!!) and are mostly looking for the cellphone/smartphone users that can often have NO hands on their steering wheels. Some of the "local" ones in towns like Sharon and Bridgewater, MA CAN be, from what I understand (Sharon is like a "people's republic", and Bridgewater has a sizable State University there) can be quite troublesome on things like that, but I make it a practice to stay OUT of those sorts of local communities.
I was just curious about what you meant about "my state just passed a hands-free driving law...", and not knowing which state you're living in currently, that's all!
Thanks in advance and Yours Sincerely,
Data's Calabash

 

npod

Lifer
Jun 11, 2017
2,947
1,073
Georgia.
I haven’t read the law personally, but the typical story, a friend of mine familiar with the law told me it could be interpreted to smoking a pipe while driving if you were seen using your hands. My intention with the post was not meant to be inciting or political. It’s just frustrating all this change. The driving issue isn’t really a big deal and probably needed.

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
3,305
1,581
You like Net Neutrality, create your own provider. Net Neutrality is essentially anti competition.

 

mikethompson

Lifer
Jun 26, 2016
11,956
26,133
Near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From what I gathered, essentially now ISPs can throttle your internet speeds and prevent you from looking at certain sites. I'm sure that's a simplistic view, but in Canada we don't have to seal with any of that nonsense.

 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,234
51,475
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Might you please outline what net neutrality actually is? I don't know whether I am for or agin' it!
https://www.internetsociety.org/policybriefs/networkneutrality/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj7f8zcX82wIV2FqGCh2FfQxqEAAYAiAAEgKKyvD_BwE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/11/technology/net-neutrality-repeal.html
https://www.wired.com/2014/06/net-neutrality-missing/
http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/ideas/christopher-jon-sprigman-net-neutrality-explained
John, These will give you some info on the issues without falling prey to blind ideology on either end of the spectrum.

 

perdurabo

Lifer
Jun 3, 2015
3,305
1,581
How cute, trying to be ideologically neutral, but not so fast with nytimes. But hey, the wired article was actually pretty good. Use logic on that one and you can follow the rabbit down the hole.
Try this one out:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2014/05/14/am-i-the-only-techie-against-net-neutrality/

 

bnichols23

Lifer
Mar 13, 2018
4,131
9,558
SC Piedmont
Not necessarily, & it could also be an *incentive* to competition & innovation, since people would be wanting faster & faster access.

 
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