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workman

Lifer
Jan 5, 2018
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Recent events and recent threads by mods have got me thinking on the subject of reporting.
There have been some cases where I think I should have, or at least I had the right to report something, but didn't.
Nobody wants to be a snitch.
Since I read the recent post from mods about general behaviour on forums I find I'm changing my mind. Maybe reporting isn't being a snitch, maybe mods are grown ups that can distinguish between whining and real trouble.
Maybe reporting offensive stuff is a way to keep this forum alive. What do you think?
 

python

Administrator
Staff member
Apr 8, 2009
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If you think something should be reported, PLEASE do so. We will figure out if something needs to be done or not. There are quite a few reports that aren't rules violations that we don't do anything with.

No one but the mod team knows who reported something. Even if there isn't a rules violation, it will make us aware to keep an eye on that thread so it doesn't spiral out of control.

Thanks.
 

Grangerous

Lifer
Dec 8, 2020
3,517
14,608
East Coast USA
The Forum is beyond alive and well, it’s thriving. Look at the daily New Member introductions.

The moderator’s message was well received.

This is a smoking forum. Every member here is an adult, not only the mods.

There are rules and the Moderators enforce them.

I’m certain our mods receive enough reports that are not violations.

Encouraging members to hit the report button? ?‍♂️
 

gerryp

Part of the Furniture Now
Oct 8, 2018
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Arabi, LA
Recent events and recent threads by mods have got me thinking on the subject of reporting.
There have been some cases where I think I should have, or at least I had the right to report something, but didn't.
Nobody wants to be a snitch.
Since I read the recent post from mods about general behaviour on forums I find I'm changing my mind. Maybe reporting isn't being a snitch, maybe mods are grown ups that can distinguish between whining and real trouble.
Maybe reporting offensive stuff is a way to keep this forum alive. What do you think?
Idk...I think your question is valid,. The last thing we want is for this forum to be like Facebook or, God forbid, Twitter, I'm pretty sure that most of our members don't fit the demographic or disposition of those who have made social media a horrific cesspool, so I think we shouldn't change any of our personal standards for snitching. I'd rather ignore people who don't keep things friendly, unless they send me a threatening or very demeaning PM.
I think the mods do an exceptional job keeping the place civil. They are not shy about banning people, shutting down threads, etc. I mean hell, if they are as enthusiastic about enforcing something as minor (and debatable...ahem....) as the thread title capitalization rule, I am quite confident in their ability to take care of more important matters that can be damaging.

Last thing: I'm pretty sure that every single ironclad argument I made in Facebook wars changed the minds of absolutely no one involved, and I was never declared the winner.
There's a wise meme about it...
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Grangerous

Lifer
Dec 8, 2020
3,517
14,608
East Coast USA
The OP’s Question: “Maybe reporting offensive stuff is a way to keep this forum alive. What do you think?”

No.

I think that members should familiarize themselves with the rules. Period.

Not “report” whatever their personal definition of “offensive” may be.

That’s a sure way to destroy the comraderie and needlessly throw a bucket of cold water on this great forum.

“Respectful” differences of opinion get the juices flowing again for old guys that still have some bark but maybe not the bite.
 

olkofri

Lifer
Sep 9, 2017
8,175
15,013
The Arm of Orion
I don't report. Even when I've been unjustly and spectacularly abused, I didn't hit the report button. Somebody else did, however, and I'm grateful to him for that, in spite of my laissez faire, laisser passer approach. I didn't defend myself either, I chose to let God handle it on the two times I was abused and slandered by the same member. I'm not a pushover, though, it's just that when I do react I don't mess around and go nuclear, which is one reason I rather let it slide. Should that bloke come and try pushing the same shenaningans again, he's gonna get a virtual bloody nose, no less than he deserves. I'm still not reporting him.

My upbringing instilled in me a deep respect for authority, thus, I naturally respect the mods on any fora and don't like taunting them or challenging them or calling them out or questioning their decisions publicly or daring them to ban me. My upbringing also instilled me with a dislike for cheap and quick violence, verbal or physical, and whilst I tend to be arch and mischievous I'm never out to provoke others into anger or to belittle them or call them names for the heck of it. I behave online in the same way I behave in 'real' life—I don't act like a jerk online because the other guy is too far away and can't reach through the wires to sock me on the nose; if you were to meet me in person you'd find that I'd behave and talk the same way as I do here. Only exception would be an attitude adjustment if there are ladies about: my upbringing also inculcated a deep respect for women, even if/when they strive to make themselves not worthy of such respect (I've seen cases, not here, but I've seen them).

Now, why am I typing a verbose post? One reason: I agree with the rules and I reckon some people have been made felt unwelcome here of late. Sometimes we take the jokes too far and other times a joke doesn't come off. Sometimes we get too passionate about stuff we care about and take very seriously (such as love for Lord, lady, and land, among other things). I acknowledge that. I also acknowledge the job the mods do and which is not easy: I've been a mod and a teacher at some points in my life, so I know.

The reason, though: whilst we should strive to be kind and welcoming and, above all, respectful, there are times when some people come with a snowflake attitude that renders anything that does not praise them or their choices, or that points out a flaw or a problem with what they do/buy/think that all of a sudden these 'unflattering' posts become 'abuse' and they start crying foul. This is highly immature, counterproductive, and downright vexing. This is not ADULT behaviour and this is a site for adults. I take my portion of the admonishment doled out by the mods/admins, but I would also beseech them to moderate (privately, why not, I don't need to know the details) those prima donnae who make a storm in shot glass simply because they weren't mature and humble enough to take criticism.
 

Chasing Embers

Captain of the Black Frigate
Nov 12, 2014
45,251
119,252
Recent events and recent threads by mods have got me thinking on the subject of reporting.
There have been some cases where I think I should have, or at least I had the right to report something, but didn't.
Nobody wants to be a snitch.
Since I read the recent post from mods about general behaviour on forums I find I'm changing my mind. Maybe reporting isn't being a snitch, maybe mods are grown ups that can distinguish between whining and real trouble.
Maybe reporting offensive stuff is a way to keep this forum alive. What do you think?
Reported
 

Grangerous

Lifer
Dec 8, 2020
3,517
14,608
East Coast USA
Spam and phishing should be reported asap. Blatant attacks on fellow members. Porn.

It ain't snitching; it's helping the mods help us.
These are examples violations of the rules.

Members should read, understand and be bound by the rules.

There are no physiological changes when one “feels offended” and that’s what the OP has suggested.

He said, “Maybe reporting isn't being a snitch, maybe mods are grown ups that can distinguish between whining and real trouble.”

I’m sure the mods will be overjoyed at the new standard of superfluous “report” button pushing that the OP espouses.
 

jpmcwjr

Lifer
May 12, 2015
26,263
30,344
Carmel Valley, CA
SEE? It’s already begun!
I believe, I hope, that's just Duane being Duane, and is not actually heading to a mods in box.

In any event, timely reports of the things I mentioned above may well reduce their work, as the sooner trouble is headed off, the fewer reports.

But- This doesn't include messages that "Johnny's being mean to me". Or other butt-hurt pleas.
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
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Southern Oregon
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If you witness something that you believe crosses forum guidelines, there's no good reason not to report it. You're helping the Mods do their job. I you believe that the Mods have good judgement, then there's nothing to worry about. There's nothing to worry about anyways, given that reports are confidential.
While the vast majority of posters are solid and straightforward there are always a few who have significant boundary issues, like the former member who decided to post a 17 page ranting screed against the WHO, complete with charts, or who are, for want of a better, more enlightened, and more nuanced way to express it, completely toxic nut cases.
 
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