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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,015
50,366
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Pretty sure all briar in my household is dead, Jim, dead!

I've always surmised that "dead root briar" is briar harvested from the shrubs that had died in the ground. Hence it was aging for a time before being dug up. Could be a few months to many decades, so, to me, a marketing play.
Of course it's a marketing ploy. Almost everything we're told to believe is a marketing ploy.
 

condorlover1

Lifer
Dec 22, 2013
8,561
30,424
New York
Switches on 'Ruminator' APP Pat Pending as supplied by the ACME Corporation. That has to be the biggest piss take of all time. Makes you wonder what a 'Genuine' Condor and Weezell meerschaum pipe is worth?
 
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mso489

Lifer
Feb 21, 2013
41,211
60,638
I don't think a drunk dot com millionaire would fall for this. He'd steady his crossed eyes and sway as he ordered a Dr. Grabow for forty bucks, and enjoy the pipe when it arrived. For the suggested price, he could buy a rundown amusement park in a prairie small town, a real investment property.
 
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mingc

Lifer
Jun 20, 2019
4,259
12,604
The Big Rock Candy Mountains
Pretty sure all briar in my household is dead, Jim, dead!

I've always surmised that "dead root briar" is briar harvested from the shrubs that had died in the ground. Hence it was aging for a time before being dug up. Could be a few months to many decades, so, to me, a marketing play.
This was what Julius Vesz claimed his "dead root" briar was; not only dead but dead for hundreds of years before harvest. I don't know if he still makes that claim today. I do remember reading one response on the interwebs that it can't be, because a briar ball that had been in the ground for years after the plant had died would be all cracked and up unusable. In others words, it's marketing BS that hasn't been documented to be true.
 

georged

Lifer
Mar 7, 2013
6,101
16,733
This was what Julius Vesz claimed his "dead root" briar was; not only dead but dead for hundreds of years before harvest. I don't know if he still makes that claim today. I do remember reading one response on the interwebs that it can't be, because a briar ball that had been in the ground for years after the plant had died would be all cracked and up unusable. In others words, it's marketing BS that hasn't been documented to be true.
That's exactly the case.

Talk to any of the briar distributors (meaning the Europeans who harvest and process the stuff) and they just laugh at the "dead root" nonsense.

Alfred understood marketing, is all, which boils down to "no one ever got rich by overestimating the intelligence of their customers". He weaved a romatic story from plausible-sounding cloth, devoted a catalog page and a product line to it, and time did the rest.
 
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sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,015
50,366
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
This was what Julius Vesz claimed his "dead root" briar was; not only dead but dead for hundreds of years before harvest. I don't know if he still makes that claim today. I do remember reading one response on the interwebs that it can't be, because a briar ball that had been in the ground for years after the plant had died would be all cracked and up unusable. In others words, it's marketing BS that hasn't been documented to be true.
Unless Vesz has a way to accurately date the burl, it's only a claim.
 
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cfreud

Starting to Get Obsessed
Feb 1, 2014
261
293
Am I the only one who thinks whoever made that pipe at Dunhill was dropping acid? That's quite a freehand for the staid Dunhill.
 

OzPiper

Lifer
Nov 30, 2020
6,874
37,188
72
Sydney, Australia
Am I the only one who thinks whoever made that pipe at Dunhill was dropping acid? That's quite a freehand for the staid Dunhill.
Dunhill went through that phase in the 70-80s when there was a craze for Danish freehands.
Those Dunhills were made FOR and NOT by Dunhill, as far as I know.
 
Jul 17, 2017
1,775
6,625
NV
pencilandpipe.home.blog
Obviously, none of you guys bothered to read the description!
(Yes, the following is copied directly from the real description)

"Pipe of Pipes none better than this one ever.Probably made by Alfred Dunhill himself for a client or could be even his own personal pipe."

I'm going to break this down and help you all see why you should be trampling each other to hit the buy it now button!

1. Pipe of Pipes none better

Best pipe in the world. None better. Pipe of Pipes and Bowl of Bowls. I don't really think I need go on, but I will.

2. PROBABLY made by ALFRED DUNHILL HIMSELF!

Alfred might have made this with his own Dunhill hands. Let that sink in. He might not have, but he PROBABLY did.

3. Could be even his own personal pipe!

You, yes you even, could be even the infinitive splitting owner of Alfred's own personal pipe! A pipe that could have been even smoked using his very own Dunhill lungs!

You schmucks can keep twiddling your thumbs if you want to, but if this thing is still for sell come the third Thursday, after Labor Day 2025, I'm going to put in a serious offer!
 

sablebrush52

The Bard Of Barlings
Jun 15, 2013
21,015
50,366
Southern Oregon
jrs457.wixsite.com
Obviously, none of you guys bothered to read the description!
(Yes, the following is copied directly from the real description)

"Pipe of Pipes none better than this one ever.Probably made by Alfred Dunhill himself for a client or could be even his own personal pipe."

I'm going to break this down and help you all see why you should be trampling each other to hit the buy it now button!

1. Pipe of Pipes none better

Best pipe in the world. None better. Pipe of Pipes and Bowl of Bowls. I don't really think I need go on, but I will.

2. PROBABLY made by ALFRED DUNHILL HIMSELF!

Alfred might have made this with his own Dunhill hands. Let that sink in. He might not have, but he PROBABLY did.

3. Could be even his own personal pipe!

You, yes you even, could be even the infinitive splitting owner of Alfred's own personal pipe! A pipe that could have been even smoked using his very own Dunhill lungs!

You schmucks can keep twiddling your thumbs if you want to, but if this thing is still for sell come the third Thursday, after Labor Day 2025, I'm going to put in a serious offer!
With a sales pitch like this, how could anyone pass on this momentous opportunity. BTW, you forgot to mention the pixel high fine print where the seller goes on to list the extras that accompany this pipe of pipes, including ownership of a bridge that spans the East River, and 10,000 acres of prime swamp land ready for development, and the formula for Coca-Cola.