A & C Petersen Tobaccos Still Available?

[rmbittner]

ohin3:
I think we might share a similar passion: Petersen's Caledonian Curly Cut Melange #410.


Now, folks who know me here will know that I've said I get a terrible oral reaction to perique -- a painful, needle-like sensation. But this is the one blend I've tried that I've found so delicious, I smoke it despite the pain. Terrific stuff. (I found it on store shelves in the 80s; since then, I've only seen it pop up once on eBay, and I snagged it.)
BTW, this is an empty tin, I'm sorry to say!
Bob

 

[ohin3]

Curly Cut 410 is outstanding tobacco but it's the Original Navy Cut 499 makes me go weak in the knees. Never Smoked the Select reserve 466 till recently but it is so friggin' good. I really dig Oriental heavy English blends and this one is superb. Lots of sweet spice and incense flavours and aromas and that just does it for me. Glad I snagged that 6 tins when I had the chance. Wish I could share some with all of you and that it was still available because it really is a tobacco to behold.

 

[jpberg]

Yes. There's no rush to sell any of this stuff. I'd just get money to buy tobacco that possibly isn't as good.

 

[hfearly]

Good score on the Caledonian 466, by the way. It hasn't been imported to the US since 2001. I have 4 tins from the early 90s (Made in Denmark, painted lid) in my cellar. Maybe I'll open up one to see how the flavor has mixed after 20 years ;-)

 

[garyovich]

When did escudo changeover from a&cp to STG occur? I have lots of pre STG tins and I'm not sure how old they are. I've had them at least 4 years.

 

[dukdalf]

Ah, the Caledonian #466: I have four or five tins left from the nineties and they only seem to get better with time. My all-time favourite tobacco. I'll trade a tin of their Highland Cream for it any day...

 

[sparroa]

gary,
From what misterlowercase posted above it looks like the blender that is today STG took over around 2004, more or less.
Misterlowercase,
Thank you for the incredible amount of information, by the way. I also thank you for fleshing out my answer to this question of why these European blends are not on the market - I knew that it had to do with a tobacco settlement but I wasn't sure which one...

 

[hfearly]

If anyone wants to trade a 499 (you give to me) for a 466 (I give to you) with me, please get in contact with me ;-)

 

[garyovich]

Simenon, yes I saw that. However if someone can either back me up, or correct me; I don't believe that's when the label changed to the current one with the STG logo on it...

 

[garyovich]

Edit: double post...I'd like to blame the stupid iPhone, but probably user error.

 

[hfearly]

Simenon, yes I saw that. However if someone can either back me up, or correct me; I don't believe that's when the label changed to the current one with the STG logo on it...

as I wrote earlier up in the thread:

However, the trade mark for "ESCUDO" was already sold to Orlik / Scandinavian Tobacco Group in 2004 (not that it says March 2006, but the application to transfer the trademark to STG was already placed in 2004, so they had already taken over back then.

Now I still have a tin from November 2005 in my cellar which has the AC Peterson labeling, but it's possible that it is already the new product (production at Orlik), but still having the old labeling because the trademark had not been transferred yet to STG. So if you want the original old Escudo product make sure to look for tins earlier than August 2004.

Around August 2004 - Production goes from A&C Peterson to Orlik/STG

Around March 2006 - Orlik/STG win the trademark and start re-labling the tins.

 

[peckinpahhombre]

Looks like most recent change was around 2009:
http://pipetobaccocellar.blogspot.ca/2011/01/escudo-tin-date-codes.html

 

[peckinpahhombre]

garyovitch - try dating your tins based on link above (not sure if that site is reliable)

 

[hfearly]

Wouldn't put it past them to use up all the stock of tins labels and product first, though 3 years may be stretching it.

 

[peckinpahhombre]

Agreed, it does seem like a stretch